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I'm not an expert in infosec, but I do know a few things about cryptography, and I feel fairly confident in saying that this is misinformation

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    I'm not an expert in infosec, but I do know a few things about cryptography, and I feel fairly confident in saying that this is misinformation.

    I don't ascribe or suspect any ill-will, but I will caution that getting us to distrust tools that can help us to stay secure is a kind of propaganda that we can easily fall for. Partly because infosec is, as far as my lay understanding goes, is pretty fucking bleak!

    https://jorts.horse/@AnarchoNinaWrites/115211389612661809

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      I'm not an expert in infosec, but I do know a few things about cryptography, and I feel fairly confident in saying that this is misinformation.

      I don't ascribe or suspect any ill-will, but I will caution that getting us to distrust tools that can help us to stay secure is a kind of propaganda that we can easily fall for. Partly because infosec is, as far as my lay understanding goes, is pretty fucking bleak!

      https://jorts.horse/@AnarchoNinaWrites/115211389612661809

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      @xgranade

      there’s two “theys” relevant to encryption:

      the government: the US government has fired all its scientists and defunded all its research. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

      Silicon Valley: they’re all busy holding bacchanalias until the LLM money runs out, at which point half of them will have forgotten how to program. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

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        there’s two “theys” relevant to encryption:

        the government: the US government has fired all its scientists and defunded all its research. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

        Silicon Valley: they’re all busy holding bacchanalias until the LLM money runs out, at which point half of them will have forgotten how to program. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

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        @0xabad1dea I saw someone fairly recently (sorry; don't remember where I saw it) make the point that each time you read "quantum computer", to mentally substitute "physics experiment" and you'd be closer to the current truth.

        Also, every time I see blanket statements like "all encryption", that's a red flag for me. And what's this "they CAN crunch the numbers now"? Pretty sure factoring multi-thousand-bits semiprimes is still out of reach, for example.

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          @0xabad1dea I saw someone fairly recently (sorry; don't remember where I saw it) make the point that each time you read "quantum computer", to mentally substitute "physics experiment" and you'd be closer to the current truth.

          Also, every time I see blanket statements like "all encryption", that's a red flag for me. And what's this "they CAN crunch the numbers now"? Pretty sure factoring multi-thousand-bits semiprimes is still out of reach, for example.

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          This is not to say that quantum computing is a nothingburger for encryption; just to have a realistic outlook on it, and remember that https://xkcd.com/538/ still applies.

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            @xgranade

            there’s two “theys” relevant to encryption:

            the government: the US government has fired all its scientists and defunded all its research. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

            Silicon Valley: they’re all busy holding bacchanalias until the LLM money runs out, at which point half of them will have forgotten how to program. “they” are not about to crack all cryptography.

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            @0xabad1dea @xgranade Oh yeah we should at this point be MUCH more scared that anyone who is clamimg they have broken encryption is lying and rhere's an LLM making shit up to back their accusations.

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