@kkarhan @rogue_corq @Bundesregierung also, yes, hitting one is pretty easy. Shame about the other 15 that flew by in the time you were aiming at that one.

@kkarhan @rogue_corq @Bundesregierung and something the size of your kitchen table flying at over 200km/h at low altitude, with WW2 tech once it comes into your view, you won't swing the barrels into position fast enough until it will be out of your sights, especially in forest.

@kkarhan @rogue_corq @Bundesregierung it isn't particularly complicated, no. The issue is that when flying low they're hard to detect, and you have short time in which to do so. Also let's be generous, and give them a 2km range, with no overlap you need to place them every 4km. That's ~150 of them just along the border, without overlap and additional defences in select places. Plus supplies and infrastructure for them and crews.

@kkarhan @rogue_corq yes. How many does Germany have currently? How many of them is it willing to have *not* *in* Germany? How many is Germany able to produce in say next year?

@kkarhan @rogue_corq What's the current state of German flak systems?

@kkarhan @rogue_corq except those that do exist, have already been sent to Ukraine.
And there's already a lot of internal discussion and arguments in Poland that the military is not doing *anything* to improve anti-drone or anti-armor capabilities, in a way that addresses what is seen happening in Ukraine.

@kkarhan @rogue_corq and one of the points: each of those drones costs about 15k USD to make. Each of the missiles used to shoot them down costs *at least* 1M USD, some of them *way* more.

@kkarhan @rogue_corq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feCdUCRa2JU is an interesting summary of what's going on, what are the challenges, and what possible next steps there are

@pointlessone there's a tall long building going N-S just to the east of me, so there's also that

@pointlessone yeah.
There's one city with subway.
Building I'm in, I don't think everyone would fit into the basement, nor do I think it's particularly safe.
Underground parking, yeah, there's some, and there's hoping access would be provided if needed, because currently there's none.
There was some noise and articles that we do *not* have nearly enough shelters or what could become ones, and there's nothing being done about it.

@pointlessone bomb shelters aren't really a thing in Poland