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This is so fucked up.

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    This is so fucked up. Thanks to the heads up from @osma (do we have quote posts yet??).

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20182048

    As I've said after each time the hapless Finnish justice system lets the notorious criminal hacker Julius Kivimaki off with a slap on the wrist, he'll just keep harming people. Because this guy still has zero remorse for his crimes, whether we're talking about his extortion of thousands of people over their psychotherapy patient notes, or any of his other many exploits.

    Just this week, Hulu debuted a 4-part documentary on Kivimaki's ignominious career. I offered some perspectives on Julius in that series as well:

    https://www.hulu.com/series/most-wanted-teen-hacker-9c894205-bcde-413c-9b53-1e3bbe99112e

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      This is so fucked up. Thanks to the heads up from @osma (do we have quote posts yet??).

      https://yle.fi/a/74-20182048

      As I've said after each time the hapless Finnish justice system lets the notorious criminal hacker Julius Kivimaki off with a slap on the wrist, he'll just keep harming people. Because this guy still has zero remorse for his crimes, whether we're talking about his extortion of thousands of people over their psychotherapy patient notes, or any of his other many exploits.

      Just this week, Hulu debuted a 4-part documentary on Kivimaki's ignominious career. I offered some perspectives on Julius in that series as well:

      https://www.hulu.com/series/most-wanted-teen-hacker-9c894205-bcde-413c-9b53-1e3bbe99112e

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      @briankrebs @osma I think I watched a couple of episodes of this thing. (I guess it is the same series because it was about him and you were in it.)

      What a very strange person... Most other former criminals that I've seen express remorse (real or fake) about what they did, or at least about themselves for doing something stupid and getting caught. This one was like "yeah, I did that thing, no big shit". As if he was saying that some people have pet dogs, he swats people, that sort of stuff.

      I wouldn't even call him "evil". For me, an evil person is someone who knows that they're doing bad things and enjoys it. This guy seems utterly incapable of realizing what is bad. A psychopath, I guess? Severe lack of empathy and understanding of social norms - not even enough to reject them because he disagrees with them.

      The society needs to be protected from people like him. That doesn't necessarily mean keeping him in jail - it means keeping him doing stuff he would find enjoyable while being physically incapable of harming others.

      He needs medical help - but I doubt that he can be helped and am pretty sure that he wouldn't seek such help anyway.

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