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  • N N3Cr0

    The “monster” is just the victim in this scene. Dr. Frankenstein was the real monster when he created it.

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    i think the real argument is that what makes Frankenstein the monster is that he brings a life into this world but doesn’t provide it any guidance. he refuses to be a good father. the sea captain even finds himself quite charmed by how thoughtful, gentle, and caring the unnamed creature is despite his upbringing and decides the northwest passage isn’t worth him dooming his crew based on his philosophical discussion with the creature

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    • beigeagenda@lemmy.caB beigeagenda@lemmy.ca

      Galaxy brain: The monsters name is Abby Normal

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      mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
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        XKCD Frankenstein canon where the monster is called Frankenstein

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          gnutrino@programming.dev
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          It’s pronounced “Fronkensteen”

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          • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

            Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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            mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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            An abusive parent is still a parent. Unfortunately. The Creature doesn’t have to keep the name, but should be the heir to whatever is left of the family fortune and fortress.

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              Why would monster want to take on that name?

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              mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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              Maybe if it’s entailed to the inheritance.

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                XKCD Frankenstein canon where the monster is called Frankenstein

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                vale@sh.itjust.works
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                there really is a relevant xkcd for everything

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                  • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

                    Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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                    primrosepathspeedrun
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                    Accurate to real life parenting.

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                    • Kenny2999K Kenny2999

                      The monster lives in all of us.

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                      #29

                      If you could blow up the world with the flick of a switch

                      Would you do it?

                      If you could make everybody poor just so you could be rich

                      Would you do it?

                      If you could watch everybody work while you just lay on your back

                      Would you do it?

                      If you could take all the love without giving any back

                      Would you do it?

                      And so we cannot know ourselves or what we’d really do…

                      With all your power

                      With all your power

                      With all your power

                      What would you do?

                      The Flaming Lips - The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song

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                      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        If you could blow up the world with the flick of a switch

                        Would you do it?

                        If you could make everybody poor just so you could be rich

                        Would you do it?

                        If you could watch everybody work while you just lay on your back

                        Would you do it?

                        If you could take all the love without giving any back

                        Would you do it?

                        And so we cannot know ourselves or what we’d really do…

                        With all your power

                        With all your power

                        With all your power

                        What would you do?

                        The Flaming Lips - The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song

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                        antler
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                        Great song - but the title is “The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song.”

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                          Great song - but the title is “The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song.”

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                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Derp!

                          Thank you for the correction!

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                          • The QuuuuuillQ The Quuuuuill

                            i think the real argument is that what makes Frankenstein the monster is that he brings a life into this world but doesn’t provide it any guidance. he refuses to be a good father. the sea captain even finds himself quite charmed by how thoughtful, gentle, and caring the unnamed creature is despite his upbringing and decides the northwest passage isn’t worth him dooming his crew based on his philosophical discussion with the creature

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                            lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            Sounds like a pro choice reading of the novel? Or we shouldn’t overestimate the meaning of biological parents

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                              tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                              "Instead, Kevorkian leaned in very close — about six inches from my face. ‘Have you read Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein,’ he asked?

                              "I nodded that I had.

                              "He said ‘then you know that Frankenstein wasn’t the monster; society was the monster.’

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                              • L lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                Sounds like a pro choice reading of the novel? Or we shouldn’t overestimate the meaning of biological parents

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                                nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

                                ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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                                • The QuuuuuillQ The Quuuuuill

                                  nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

                                  ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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                                  lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
                                  #deathoftheauthor

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                                    To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
                                    #deathoftheauthor

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                                    ah okay cool. i was trying to get at that in the back half of the comment. sorry to overexplain i just deal with a lot of arrogant dismissive conservatives.

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                                    • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

                                      Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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                                      absentbird@lemmy.world
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                                      That’s just typical shitty dad stuff.

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                                        abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                                        • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                          Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                                          mesophar@pawb.social
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                                          This 1000 times. It wasn’t even ambiguous in the novel.

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