Say what you will about Kirk, but he made some great points in his debating

Say what you will about Kirk, but the shit that he spewed was really for the betterment of humanity.

Edit: I’m talking about the blood from his neck you nerds lmao

My silver lining about Kirk: before he got shot, I didn’t even know he existed. After he got shot, I read up on him and his statements. The amount of bullshit he spewed and the amount of people who believed or liked him helped me understand the US better. And to realise that culturally, the US is so diverging from Europe that we should no longer treat it as our offshoot, but an entirely different (and increasingly alien) culture.

Calling the US culture “alien” is an easy cop out way to say it’s not our fault. But the truth is, it’s authentic human shit. It’s uniquely fucked up comparatively but it’s still a result of millennia of human civilization. We’re all partially responsible.

Excuse me while I vomit

It’s European culture, too. Idk a whole lot about any of the countries in Europe, but I do know Chega came from nowhere in Portugal to become the #2 party in something like 5 years and England Brexited itself out of the EU, both of them with this same nonsense. And those ain’t the only European countries it’s happening in. It’s everywhere.

Although I don’t know how much is culture and how much is cash. Billionaires are funding all kinds of heinous shit across the planet.

Oh, yeah, this type of insane bullshittery could never happen in Europe. Except that it already has and continues to. You’re parroting the same, lame “it can’t happen here” crap many of my American friends were in 2016.

I’m talking about the blood from his neck. Apparently not a singlr person got my joke. lmao

By “alien”, I didn’t mean any negative connotations. I meant that I don’t understand it. Ugandan or Japanese cultures, for example, are alien to me, because I don’t understand their nuances and can’t be bothered to learn them. The US, with its proud European “descendants” (so many people claim to be European even though they are the third generation to never set foot in Europe), used to be at least understandable, but it’s shifting towards something where I no longer understand how people think or what motives drive them.

The US used to export its culture, and people were eating it up. But I actually see an uptick in appreciation of local culture in Europe. As you said, there is lots of external financing to push American culture across the world, but I think that this is just a reaction to people not consuming as much of it as before. I see that here in Ireland as well. So far, we’ve rejected most of it (especially the American religious nutcases who tried to influence our abortion referendum), but it’s a constant struggle.

Fair enough!

But of course it’s happening here, but at least where I’m sitting, there is an overwhelming rejection of this “bullshittery”. Here in Ireland we have small fringe nationalistic parties, which so far only faced outright ridicule, even though recently I heard about outright hostility (a group of such nutcases was beaten up and stripped to their underwear). We are facing political and financial pressures from the US, and so far we dispatched with them fairly easily. And even though our government’s incompetence invites the more radical groups, I’m fully convinced that it won’t happen here, unless we’re directly invaded.

I’m fully convinced that it won’t happen here, unless we’re directly invaded.

As I said, you’re making the exact same mistake many made in America. Dictators come to power when a population is suffering and their government has profoundly failed them. In such times, they’re so desperate that they’ll vote for a strongman outsider who promises them their wildest dreams. This is not an American error that the Irish are immune to making, and if you think so, you’re just as ignorant as the Americans you think so little of.

I did not get it. Never miiiiind!

No worries. lol

Ireland is a special case here. Not that the population wouldn’t be willing to vote in some extremists, but they may actually be unable. Ireland’s voting system, the single transferable vote, almost guarantees a regression to centrist parties. It would take a change in our Constitution to move allow extremist parties to gain any political power, and given our history and existing political culture, the easiest way to achieve that would indeed be a direct military intervention.

No, you still don’t get it and I don’t think any further explanation on my part is going to change your mind, but just know this is about mass psychology, not the particulars of any political system or culture. You think you’re protected from this kind of hysteria, but you’re not.

Anyway, best of luck to you and yours.

i sleep in a racecar bed please dont mix these vile creatures in with our commuinty

guarantees a regression to centrist parties

The US’s whole political system has been drifting rightward. Our center is more to the right than 20 years ago. So it does not matter if regression to center is happening as the center drifts into the fascist event horizon. Every possible “this is why it could never happen here” is possibly a single event away from being breached, then discarded. The US has had so many of our safety checks blown through, and the only people who can now prevent it have no desire to do so, because they’re on the same team.

I’m sure you will be vigilant, but it takes the whole country. And a person may be smart, but people are dumb, panicky animals.