Based and Red Pilled Gigachad, many such cases š
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Literally just reinventing the Nazis conspiracy theory that Russians are secretly behind all their nations problems.
They are not America
You are literally arguing that literal birth American citizens living in America arenāt really American and are actually āRussianā in some kind of ontological way. You have literally defined āRussianā and āAmericanā in such a way that all of Americaās problems are, by definition Russia, even if they are caused entirely by American policy made by Americans in America. This is hardcore literal Nazi shit you are doing.
No, and further, I gave sources. From multiple countries and organizations and world leaders.
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You know America is cooked because even liberals are blaming everything on evil foreigners
I have no issue with Russian people, I have an issue with Putin and the Russian state government committing atrocities globally including usurping governments. I am not a liberal, I am an abolitionist and socialist.
Whether you acknowledge it or not, their bombs will blow you up the same.
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If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia.
You seem to know more than me based on your response. You are claiming an amazing amount are funded by Russia, are there any decently recent sources which support your claim that you can direct me to? Do these people also take money from US-based right-wing organizations?
Just some quick bigger stories. There are others as well.
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Iām sorry for that. If its any consolation, the dynamics usually change as they get older and more dependent on you.
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I have no issue with Russian people, I have an issue with Putin and the Russian state government committing atrocities globally including usurping governments. I am not a liberal, I am an abolitionist and socialist.
Whether you acknowledge it or not, their bombs will blow you up the same.
I am an abolitionist and a socialist.
No. This level of xenophobia, American exceptionalism, and McCarthyism are incompatible with actually being an abolitionist and a socialist.
Whether you acknowledge it or now, their bombs will blow you up the same
All bombs will blow you up, genius, including American ones, which blow up more people than anyone else.
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No, and further, I gave sources. From multiple countries and organizations and world leaders.
https://lemmy.world/post/36107411/19469733When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy that Satanic paedophiles are secretly behind everything, qanoners would machine gun you with articles about individual powerful people being paedophiles, and act like that proved that they were secretly all paedophiles.
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy about Judeo-Bolsheriks, Nazis could machine gun you with stories about Jews doing bad things and act like that proved Jews are behind everything.
When asked for sources for your Grand conspiracy about Russia being behind all of Americaās problems, you machinegun stories any Russia doing bad things and act like that proves theyāre behind every bad thing
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Sources have been given. If youāre too stupid to learn or read basic news sources like Reuters and NPR, on a story thatāsbeen happening for a decade now, thatās on you.
https://lemmy.world/post/36107411/19469733When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy that Satanic paedophiles are secretly behind everything, qanoners would machine gun you with articles about individual powerful people being paedophiles, and act like that proved that they were secretly all paedophiles.
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy about Judeo-Bolsheriks, Nazis could machine gun you with stories about Jews doing bad things and act like that proved Jews are behind everything.
When asked for sources for your Grand conspiracy about Russia being behind all of Americaās problems, you machinegun stories any Russia doing bad things and act like that proves theyāre behind every bad thing.
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Unsourced? It is thoroughly sourced.
https://lemmy.world/post/36107411/19469733I have no issue with the Russian people. Itās the Russian government/state I have an issue with, often I emphasize this but I truly thought it was clear by how I was saying they were enslaving their own people and harming them etc - average Russian doesnāt want this.
Being against a fascist leader actively attacking your country and other countries and funding Nazis and fascism globally isnāt xenophobia, thatās quite obvious.
Unsourced? It is thoroughly sourced.
So all of those links contain evidence for the specific claim that Russian is engaged in āMASSIVE MASSIVE warfare on Lemmyā specifically? Because if not, and itās actually just you posting every unrelated link about Russia doing anything bad you could find in the hope that the sheer number of them would dissuade anyone from actually double checking, then you are actively and deliberately lying through your teeth. So which is it?
and other countries and funding Nazis and fascism globally isnāt xenophobia
Blaming all of your countries domestic problems on a secret conspiracy by your nations foreign enemies, while accusing anyone do disagrees with you of secretly being foreign agents is about as xenophobic as you can get.
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Calm down, grandma
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Calm down, grandma
Sorry, Iāll try to start frothing at the mouth about those perfidious Chinese Russians like a calm person such as yourself.
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The key is to be constantly aware of it. Never follow someone blindly.
So, for example, donāt blindly accept casualty numbers for Russia directly from the Ukrainian government?
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No other country has done as much? Weāre gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!
The trick is, every-time it looks like someone other than Russia is behind it, you just have to argue that Russia is secretly being them!
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We need a national online forum
Yes, the solution to Americaās problems is more centralized government control of information, to make sure that those evil ruskies canāt corrupt our pure
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Yes, the solution to Americaās problems is more centralized government control of information, to make sure that those evil ruskies canāt corrupt our pure
bodily fluidsinternet.I think you need a nap or something, because what you said isnāt anything I wrote.
First, the existence of the post office doesnāt stop you from using UPS or Fedex. Likewise, a government forum wouldnāt stop you from using other forums or social. And the government already got involved in socials like TikTok (deal currently being made), Truth Social, Twitter, and Meta - but because they arenāt explicitly OWNED by the government, we donāt have the same legal protections and cannot sue for rights that would normally be protected like free speech.
Just like how USPS canāt open packages without a warrant, but UPS and Fedex can just open whatever. The government gives you special protections that you can enforce via lawsuits.
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists, because it would be much harder to make sock puppets and bots. FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy, itās fascism and fascist control of info. We should each get a say, and what we say should stand on merit, not money. We deserve real communication so we can work on issues.
I already explained I love the Russian people, but not their fascist government.
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
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Unsourced? It is thoroughly sourced.
So all of those links contain evidence for the specific claim that Russian is engaged in āMASSIVE MASSIVE warfare on Lemmyā specifically? Because if not, and itās actually just you posting every unrelated link about Russia doing anything bad you could find in the hope that the sheer number of them would dissuade anyone from actually double checking, then you are actively and deliberately lying through your teeth. So which is it?
and other countries and funding Nazis and fascism globally isnāt xenophobia
Blaming all of your countries domestic problems on a secret conspiracy by your nations foreign enemies, while accusing anyone do disagrees with you of secretly being foreign agents is about as xenophobic as you can get.
Sorry, you donāt think thereās Russian propaganda on Lemmy? Lol, are you one of them? Your arguments are kinda sus tbh and come across like the fake liberal people trying to cause outrage with buzzwords. Bots (aka human slaves) love misunderstanding words like racism, sexism, xenophobia, and cultural appropriation, accuse people of them in trying to shame people so they wonāt keep talking. Wonāt work on me. And if you arenāt a bot, then you have the personality of someone making rage bait to avoid torture which is just funny af if thatās what your REAL personality is like.
Tell me something negative about Putin. Go ahead. Tell me something negative about Xiās government. Go on. These are dictators, should be easy.
Do you understand what a lie is? Making a connection isnāt a lie. If I see 1+1+1=? and answer 3, Iām not lying, Iām just completing the equation.
It isnāt āanything bad,ā itās literally example after example of them doing exactly this, along with some of their talking points so you can compare to other puppets talking points, like yours.
It literally isnāt xenophobia, lol. Being actively attacked by an administration and standing up against it is normal and bravery. Is Ukraine being xenophobic when they say Russia is attacking them too? What about Poland and Romania? What about how Lebanon is investigating possible Russian connections to that giant blast in Beirut because they think they caused it - is that xenophobia, to investigate a possible giant bomb and ask for accountability for it?
The state of Russia is engaging in warfare - thatās true. BRICS literal stated purpose is to collapse western currency. It is economic warfare. It will and has killed people. Itās okay to say thatās wrong lol
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I think you need a nap or something, because what you said isnāt anything I wrote.
First, the existence of the post office doesnāt stop you from using UPS or Fedex. Likewise, a government forum wouldnāt stop you from using other forums or social. And the government already got involved in socials like TikTok (deal currently being made), Truth Social, Twitter, and Meta - but because they arenāt explicitly OWNED by the government, we donāt have the same legal protections and cannot sue for rights that would normally be protected like free speech.
Just like how USPS canāt open packages without a warrant, but UPS and Fedex can just open whatever. The government gives you special protections that you can enforce via lawsuits.
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists, because it would be much harder to make sock puppets and bots. FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy, itās fascism and fascist control of info. We should each get a say, and what we say should stand on merit, not money. We deserve real communication so we can work on issues.
I already explained I love the Russian people, but not their fascist government.
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
I think you need a nap or something
Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.
because what you said isnāt anything I wrote.
It is what they call āparaphrasingā
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists
So who would be moderating this government forum?
FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy
It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.
itās fascism and fascist control of info.
Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propagandaā¦
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
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When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy that Satanic paedophiles are secretly behind everything, qanoners would machine gun you with articles about individual powerful people being paedophiles, and act like that proved that they were secretly all paedophiles.
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy about Judeo-Bolsheriks, Nazis could machine gun you with stories about Jews doing bad things and act like that proved Jews are behind everything.
When asked for sources for your Grand conspiracy about Russia being behind all of Americaās problems, you machinegun stories any Russia doing bad things and act like that proves theyāre behind every bad thing.
BRICS literal stated purpose is western currency collapse, and they formed a coalition around this stated purpose.
Russia is a state run by a dictator who is having them do this, so thatās why they are grouped.
It isnāt āanyā story, it is literally about their online warfare.
Please learn to read
Please learn a basic good faith argument
I didnāt say Russia was behind all global issues or all of Americaās issues. I listed what Russia has specifically been doing because that was the info missing. I even mentioned Dubai and BRICS as you noted, so you contradict yourself here that I say only Russia is behind anything anyway. But the topic was Russia and Russia has all the blackmail so that is why they are the focus.
You canāt criticize Putin? Lol you ARE a bot. Not least because you havenāt been able to add to the discussion at all like a normal person.
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When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy that Satanic paedophiles are secretly behind everything, qanoners would machine gun you with articles about individual powerful people being paedophiles, and act like that proved that they were secretly all paedophiles.
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy about Judeo-Bolsheriks, Nazis could machine gun you with stories about Jews doing bad things and act like that proved Jews are behind everything.
When asked for sources for your Grand conspiracy about Russia being behind all of Americaās problems, you machinegun stories any Russia doing bad things and act like that proves theyāre behind every bad thing
BRICS literal stated purpose is western currency collapse, and they formed a coalition around this stated purpose.
Russia is a state run by a dictator who is having them do this, so thatās why they are grouped.
It isnāt āanyā story, it is literally about their online warfare.
Please learn to read
Please learn a basic good faith argument
I didnāt say Russia was behind all global issues or all of Americaās issues. I listed what Russia has specifically been doing because that was the info missing. I even mentioned Dubai and BRICS as you noted, so you contradict yourself here that I say only Russia is behind anything anyway. But the topic was Russia and Russia has all the blackmail so that is why they are the focus.
You canāt criticize Putin? Lol you ARE a bot. Not least because you havenāt been able to add to the discussion at all like a normal person.
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I am an abolitionist and a socialist.
No. This level of xenophobia, American exceptionalism, and McCarthyism are incompatible with actually being an abolitionist and a socialist.
Whether you acknowledge it or now, their bombs will blow you up the same
All bombs will blow you up, genius, including American ones, which blow up more people than anyone else.
Lmfao it isnāt xenophobia to stand up to a nation or nations actively attacking you with huge military campaigns for millions of dollars. It isnt xenophobia to criticize a foreign government engaging in massive human rights abuses including slavery.
Where have I stated American exceptionalism even once?
Where have I stated anything McCarthyism related? Do you think modern Russia is communist? Do you think Putin is communist?
Can you say anything negative about Putin?
No shit, I donāt support the US doing this shit either.
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I think you need a nap or something
Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.
because what you said isnāt anything I wrote.
It is what they call āparaphrasingā
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists
So who would be moderating this government forum?
FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy
It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.
itās fascism and fascist control of info.
Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propagandaā¦
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
Define āstrawmanā and define āparaphrasing.ā
You did not paraphrase, you made up an entirely different thing that was never said by me.
Say something negative about Putin.
The government moderates it along with the laws we put into place that protect us. Again, they are already doing this without the laws or transparency via private businesses.
Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasnāt been used like this before ~2016. It is NOT democracy to hear a select few peopleās opinion over and over again.
Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking. People donāt need āpropagandaā to learn about policies, they can watch town halls, debates, talks, etc, discuss them with each other, and freely exchange ideas. (Doesnāt surprise me at all that you are in support of fascist control of info).
Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.
Hey can you say something negative about Putin?
