Which stage are you at?
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!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org is leaking.
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I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
There’s a thing across Africa called “joking cousins.” Unlike genuine bad-blood tension between different ethnic groups that can often exist, it’s a jovial sibling rivalry style of thing. I’ve always seen the distro thing a bit like that. It gets tiring, but it’s sort of hard-coded into human nature to joke about slight differences when we’re all in the same tribe.
Though, this graph is silly for the reasons you mention - I think that might be intentional as part of the joke. It’s stupid, so clearly OP is daily driving Kali and hacked the central database to add the distro logos. I dunno, maybe I’m explaining it away too easily.
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It was nvidia drivers mostly.
And it was 12 years ago.
Yeah I had lots of problems with Winmodems on Slackware 20 years ago, definitely a bad distro too!
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Mint…
I had thought of going to Fedora next but I ask myself why !
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I’ve been using linux off and on for almost 20 years, though only did a full transition to linux for everything about two years ago. I use debian for the servers in my homelab and Fedora on all my other computers.
Something tells me this chart is based on an external assessment of competence/confidence not a self-assessment, because according to the chart I should be a guru, but in actuality I know nothing.
I’m great at
using Linuxreading the Arch wiki -
I’m at the Kali Linux peak but at least I’m smart enough to know that I don’t have the capability to do the social engineering aspect so I’m just gonna backtrack to Ubuntu and tie myself to the terminal and actually learn Linux.
The “return to Ubuntu” logo is Feren OS. Which distro do you choose for your return to Ubuntu?
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I use mint on my PC and love it! However I’m now the ipad kid of Linux. It never breaks, I never have to learn anything. Just getting it up and running is the zenith of my knowledge and ability.
Same here.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Been using Debian for like 3 years now. No intent of distro hopping.
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I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
I didn’t say it’s the actual diagram, I said it’s referencing it. Also chill. It’s a stupid meme
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Canonical: snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
This is pure rage bait.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Dang I think I ahve multiple personality disorder then!
I use Arch, Debian and Bazzite. I feel all stretched out now! -
Yeah I had lots of problems with Winmodems on Slackware 20 years ago, definitely a bad distro too!
I switched to Ubuntu then and has no issues since.
So yeah.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I’ve bricked my installation just by logging into root in openSUSE. I am not touching this shit again. I love my arch
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I switched to Ubuntu then and has no issues since.
So yeah.
But you said you were on Gentoo
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Canonical: snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap
What’s the issue with snaps? I’m still on Ubuntu ans abkut to switch to Debian, but for me its pretty chill atm because I don’t have to worry about updates or security. I know about the terminal aliases, which could be disclosed better, but it’s not that big of a deal to me. I thought it’s pretty cool to have a “store” that’s curated so I don’t have to worry about security, since I use Linux casually.
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Isn’t Endeavour just easy install arch?
I think so, I use EOS on my desktop, but installed no desktop environment, and installed&configured a tilling wm and other stuff for my daily use. I installed Arch on my laptop and aside from the different tilling wm (and other apps for the wm) and some sensible default helper eos apps, the pacman reports are the same.
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Manjaro too, but with even more interference
Manjaro is way different, its spearated from the Arch repos. Never used tho, and not plannig to either.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
& then people return to PopOS, ubuntu, LinuxMint & Debian.
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This. I’ve gone ‘round the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.
Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you don’t have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.
