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    tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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    "Instead, Kevorkian leaned in very close — about six inches from my face. ‘Have you read Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein,’ he asked?

    "I nodded that I had.

    "He said ‘then you know that Frankenstein wasn’t the monster; society was the monster.’

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    • L lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Sounds like a pro choice reading of the novel? Or we shouldn’t overestimate the meaning of biological parents

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      nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

      ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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        nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

        ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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        lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
        #deathoftheauthor

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        • L lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
          #deathoftheauthor

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          ah okay cool. i was trying to get at that in the back half of the comment. sorry to overexplain i just deal with a lot of arrogant dismissive conservatives.

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          • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

            Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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            absentbird@lemmy.world
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            That’s just typical shitty dad stuff.

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              abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                mesophar@pawb.social
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                This 1000 times. It wasn’t even ambiguous in the novel.

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                  Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                  blackvenom@lemmy.world
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                  I wanted to believe this.

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                  • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

                    Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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                    yottadren@lemmy.world
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                    Nah, my mom called me half of these things but I still get the last name

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                      That’s just typical shitty dad stuff.

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                      yottadren@lemmy.world
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                      Typical Frankenstein

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