Complete this sentence:
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Complete this sentence:
"I experience #fediverse as a .."
@smallcircles international conference
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@smallcircles international conference
@jackeric I like that. It is an original take, thanks.
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Complete this sentence:
"I experience #fediverse as a .."
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Even more remarkable is the near complete absence of the #ActivityPub developer community in mingling in the social side of the discussion.
To learn how #fedizens actually *experience* this here fediverse. A #fediverse which results from them tying their apps together, to hopefully get more than the sum of individual parts. By means of facilitating #interoperability, technically speaking. But it involves more than getting that feature across the wire to the next app.
There's exists a clear gap between #sociosphere and #technosphere, where the latter must serve the former to bring real solutions. Otherwise it is all apps and not much seamless social fabric to navigate. No peopleverse anywhere in sight. Just apps and users of them.
The apps see great success, and I enjoy their use a lot. But I don't see a future for the app-centric fediverse where it comes to providing mankind the future of #SocialNetworking.
@smallcircles "Even more remarkable is the near complete absence of the #ActivityPub developer community in mingling in the social side of the discussion."
Once you've been here for a little longer you'll realise this statement isn't the case.
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Complete this sentence:
"I experience #fediverse as a .."
@smallcircles ... overlarge, international office tea kitchen. Come over when you feel like it, take a biscuit and talk to whoever happens to be around.
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@smallcircles "Even more remarkable is the near complete absence of the #ActivityPub developer community in mingling in the social side of the discussion."
Once you've been here for a little longer you'll realise this statement isn't the case.
@wordsmith perhaps. Is 2017 long enough?
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@wordsmith perhaps. Is 2017 long enough?
@smallcircles I guess I've been on the look-out for discussion by the people making things here. Owncast, Bonfire, RFF, Indie Beat Radio and TV, Fireside Fedi, Fedilab, dansup's many projects, and folk involved in AP more directly. They've all been talking about what they do and plan, and have listened or given a voice to people asking and answering questions about how the Fedi grows. There does seem to be plenty of social discussion out there.
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@smallcircles I guess I've been on the look-out for discussion by the people making things here. Owncast, Bonfire, RFF, Indie Beat Radio and TV, Fireside Fedi, Fedilab, dansup's many projects, and folk involved in AP more directly. They've all been talking about what they do and plan, and have listened or given a voice to people asking and answering questions about how the Fedi grows. There does seem to be plenty of social discussion out there.
You are certainly not wrong. And I apologize, as it is not immediately clear that my post above is against the backdrop of 2 weeks of microblogging addressing a whole range of paint points and inhibitors to a fedi that evolves to be the future of social networking. Microblogging is too fragmentary and 'context-lossy', but unfortunately the primary comms channel for the dev community.
The gist and big issue is that the current fediverse is app-centric in nature, and accepted a work method that will further that app-centricness by introducing ever more protocol decay and tech debt. The examples you gave above are app talk, turn to features, howto federate feature, tech talk, get mired in impl details. And importantly: do not catch up with standards. That is up to some poor volunteers, who see that things are going side-ways.
There are 2 fediverse forks: the promised one in the AP specs, and the one we have. There's no shared vision, and tons of misconception to deal with.
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You are certainly not wrong. And I apologize, as it is not immediately clear that my post above is against the backdrop of 2 weeks of microblogging addressing a whole range of paint points and inhibitors to a fedi that evolves to be the future of social networking. Microblogging is too fragmentary and 'context-lossy', but unfortunately the primary comms channel for the dev community.
The gist and big issue is that the current fediverse is app-centric in nature, and accepted a work method that will further that app-centricness by introducing ever more protocol decay and tech debt. The examples you gave above are app talk, turn to features, howto federate feature, tech talk, get mired in impl details. And importantly: do not catch up with standards. That is up to some poor volunteers, who see that things are going side-ways.
There are 2 fediverse forks: the promised one in the AP specs, and the one we have. There's no shared vision, and tons of misconception to deal with.
@smallcircles aha, then the apologies are mine for not considering the context before sending a reply. I guess it's more difficult to start a conversation - and for it to be seen - than to join one.
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"I experience #fediverse as a .."
@smallcircles
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It's a neighbourhood in an old city, a chowk. I see a lot of the same folk and we look after each other. There's a river that connects us to other parts of the city, and market gardens, and hills still covered with forests. I look after an old monastery at the base of one of those hills, with a big tree in the courtyard. There's quite a large bazaar nearby and many friends have workshops and sell things there. Sometimes I go for a cycle ride to other neighbourhoods where I have colleagues or friends. Folks come by for morning rituals or just good food. Sometimes drunk twats from the business district get lost and show up here, so someone has to help them leave.
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It's a neighbourhood in an old city, a chowk. I see a lot of the same folk and we look after each other. There's a river that connects us to other parts of the city, and market gardens, and hills still covered with forests. I look after an old monastery at the base of one of those hills, with a big tree in the courtyard. There's quite a large bazaar nearby and many friends have workshops and sell things there. Sometimes I go for a cycle ride to other neighbourhoods where I have colleagues or friends. Folks come by for morning rituals or just good food. Sometimes drunk twats from the business district get lost and show up here, so someone has to help them leave.
@yetiinabox this I really like as a mental image depicting the future of social networking.
A rallying cry of https://coding.social is to (dare to) Reimagine Social. To reimagine social networking holds a challenge to think out of the box, and distinguish the sociosphere from the technosphere that should support it.
On the social side we can pursue dreams together, while we materialize them as we realize corresponding technology visions on the technical side.
We are nowhere near of the deliberate solution design of our dreams (pun intended: added wordplay), but framing your technology effort in a proper social context is a great way to more meaningful and purposeful software development. Good examples are @Bonfire and @Framasoft
Framasoft lets the artwork, created by @davidrevoy, speak for the vibes and values of the open technology landscape they envision. The imagery depicts the dream driving the vision.
To Reimagine Social our place on the Fediverse Adventure Map is here ...
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