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Re the brouhaha with activitypub and atproto

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  • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

    @davew I don't know who you mean by "any of you", but I can assure you that I'm really glad we have interoperability with so many different platforms. I love Bridgy Fed, so I can follow my friends and family who are on Bluesky. We are interconnected.

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    @davew I can't speak for Paul Frazee, but I think he and the team at Bluesky are good folks who are trying their best to help people connect.

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    • Dave Winer ☕️D Dave Winer ☕️

      @suzannealdrich

      THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

      to get rid of the difference so we really can write in our home and have it go where ever we want.

      everyone wants this.

      we have pingbacks in RSS and they work, and wordpress supports them.

      it's the obvious way to go.

      masto and bluesky have to hook up to our network, not vice versa.

      http://scripting.com/2025/08/28/140604.html?title=thinkDifferentAboutWordpress

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      @davew @suzannealdrich There are a few good bridges for RSS in the Fediverse. If your site supports Webmentions, I know that Bridgy Fed provides two-way integration.

      https://fed.brid.gy/docs#web-get-started

      I'm not sure about pingbacks, though! @snarfed.org ?

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      • Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)S Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)

        @davew
        I completely and utterly agree, Dave. It SURE WOULD make things simpler to just CONSUME MY BLOG'S RSS, that I ALREADY MAKE with my site generators, then have to worry about implementing all these endpoints and a dynamic inbox. The current best practice to integrate your website with the Fediverse is just converting your RSS to AP notes for your outbox:

        https://maho.dev/2024/02/a-guide-to-implement-activitypub-in-a-static-site-or-any-website-part-2/

        The only sticking point left is how to make the inbox part easier for people so they can get "pingbacks"?

        #RSS #ActivityPub #ATproto #SocialWeb #fediverse

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        @suzannealdrich

        i use automattic's bridge to activitypub, so i don't have to worry about the innards.

        but i like the way the web works better.

        that's what i'm going to stick with.

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        • Dave Winer ☕️D Dave Winer ☕️

          @suzannealdrich

          i use automattic's bridge to activitypub, so i don't have to worry about the innards.

          but i like the way the web works better.

          that's what i'm going to stick with.

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          @davew @suzannealdrich you publish where you want to publish, Dave. We'll find a way to connect to you. That's the whole point.

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          • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

            @davew @suzannealdrich you publish where you want to publish, Dave. We'll find a way to connect to you. That's the whole point.

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            @evan @suzannealdrich

            I have the answer to that good question.

            https://feedland.social/opml?screenname=davewiner&catname=daveverse

            That’s the collection of feeds that reps my web writing.

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            • Dave Winer ☕️D Dave Winer ☕️

              @evan @suzannealdrich

              I have the answer to that good question.

              https://feedland.social/opml?screenname=davewiner&catname=daveverse

              That’s the collection of feeds that reps my web writing.

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              @davew @suzannealdrich awesome!

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              • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                @davew @suzannealdrich awesome!

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                @evan @suzannealdrich

                that's a dynamic list, feeds will be added and removed. the idea is to get all of my writing everywhere in one place. that's basically what everyone wants. and the more places it's available the better.

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                • Dave Winer ☕️D Dave Winer ☕️

                  @suzannealdrich

                  THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

                  to get rid of the difference so we really can write in our home and have it go where ever we want.

                  everyone wants this.

                  we have pingbacks in RSS and they work, and wordpress supports them.

                  it's the obvious way to go.

                  masto and bluesky have to hook up to our network, not vice versa.

                  http://scripting.com/2025/08/28/140604.html?title=thinkDifferentAboutWordpress

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                  @davew @suzannealdrich

                  also *millions* of ActivityPub and Atproto (and others...) users want to have every content, and they think you should really hook to their network, not vice versa.

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                  • Luca SironiL Luca Sironi

                    @davew @suzannealdrich

                    also *millions* of ActivityPub and Atproto (and others...) users want to have every content, and they think you should really hook to their network, not vice versa.

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                    @luca @suzannealdrich

                    They may want it, but honestly no one cares what they want.

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                    • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                      @davew @suzannealdrich you publish where you want to publish, Dave. We'll find a way to connect to you. That's the whole point.

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                      @evan @suzannealdrich

                      I published a screen shot of your post on my blog.

                      http://scripting.com/2025/09/08.html#a150606

                      Like I said in the post, everything else is baloney. Put that at the top of every spec you write, so people know not to drift into bullshit-land. 😉

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                      • Dave Winer ☕️D Dave Winer ☕️

                        @evan @suzannealdrich

                        I published a screen shot of your post on my blog.

                        http://scripting.com/2025/09/08.html#a150606

                        Like I said in the post, everything else is baloney. Put that at the top of every spec you write, so people know not to drift into bullshit-land. 😉

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                        @davew @suzannealdrich I'm glad you like that. I think people get worried about it a lot. It's not their job to strategize which social network services to use; it's our job to get them wired up.

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