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Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub1/One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations

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  • @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:R This user is from outside of this forum
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    Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub

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    One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations.

    Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media.

    Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc.

    ...

    I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

    #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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      Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub

      1/

      One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations.

      Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media.

      Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc.

      ...

      I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

      #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

      stu_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @reiver Are you already using the quote post feature?

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        Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub

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        One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations.

        Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media.

        Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc.

        ...

        I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

        #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

        @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:R This user is from outside of this forum
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        How could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

        ...

        I suppose there are 2 major approaches.

        Either use an existing Object Type. Maybe:

        type="Note"

        Or create a new Object Type:

        type="Quotation"

        ...

        Here is the interesting thing though —

        #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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          How could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

          ...

          I suppose there are 2 major approaches.

          Either use an existing Object Type. Maybe:

          type="Note"

          Or create a new Object Type:

          type="Quotation"

          ...

          Here is the interesting thing though —

          #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

          @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:R This user is from outside of this forum
          @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:R This user is from outside of this forum
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          3/

          Apparently the Bookwyrm developer had the exact same idea!

          (Which isn't too surprising.)

          ...

          #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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            Apparently the Bookwyrm developer had the exact same idea!

            (Which isn't too surprising.)

            ...

            #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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            4/

            Apparently, Bookwyrm stores quotations with:

            type="Quotation"

            And if one Bookwyrm server talks to another Bookwyrm server, then — the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams representation of the quotation will have:

            type="Quotation"

            ...

            BUT — if a non-Bookwyrm server talks to a Bookwyrm server, then — the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams representation of the quotation will have:

            type="Note"

            #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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              @reiver Are you already using the quote post feature?

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              @_scl

              In this thread, I was talking about a different type of quoting.

              Quote-Posts are for quoting (really embedding) other social-media posts.

              I was more talking about quoting blocks of text from books, scholarly papers, blog posts, video, podcasts, etc.

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              • @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:R @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:

                @_scl

                In this thread, I was talking about a different type of quoting.

                Quote-Posts are for quoting (really embedding) other social-media posts.

                I was more talking about quoting blocks of text from books, scholarly papers, blog posts, video, podcasts, etc.

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                @reiver Gotcha my bad Charles. I get what you are talking about.

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                  How could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

                  ...

                  I suppose there are 2 major approaches.

                  Either use an existing Object Type. Maybe:

                  type="Note"

                  Or create a new Object Type:

                  type="Quotation"

                  ...

                  Here is the interesting thing though —

                  #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

                  silverpillS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @reiver I think a <blockquote> element could be used:

                  How could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽

                  A link to the original object could be added with FEP-e232.

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