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  • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

    @unattributed exactly.

    I practiced myself in avoidance of the term, and found that to be refreshing and lending a different perspective.

    "Users" carries an aspect of depersonalization, but also implies an ownership relationship that creeps into the developers thinking, and even where the noble ones say "I serve MY users" it has consequences to the entire dynamics around software dynamics, and how the solution deliverable is able to serve the needs of different stakeholder groups.

    Social experience design focusses on needs-based development and starts to consider problem statements first for all identified stakeholders in the solution delivery process.

    For fediverse I use #fedizens on occasion, the residents of the fedi universe.

    #SX #SocialCoding

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    @unattributed

    Note that once you are conditioned to avoid the term "User" after a full career of addictive use of the word in that dev context, you start to notice how weird and awkward it really is.

    You don't notice that while still addicted to your daily dose of saying "user" in broad generalization and technical abstraction. Devs think it is practical to use the word, pragmatic. But it is not. It is a technical word, and the use is similar to when a dev says "JSON" for instance. It is depersonalized, and that depersonalization seeps deep into the codebase over time. It is a word that anchors devs in the technosphere and keeps them there.

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      @amans certainly, and welcome ๐Ÿค—

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      • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

        Complete this sentence:

        "I experience #fediverse as a .."

        #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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        @smallcircles A friendly global village, although a bit white.

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        • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

          Complete this sentence:

          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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          #149

          @smallcircles An opensource school

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          • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

            @octarine_wiggle I like that description, thanks.

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            @smallcircles I should mention I was trying to capture my experience as an anonymous user. I would still guess the town analogy is generally apt.

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            • eerlijkdigitaalonderwijs.nlC eerlijkdigitaalonderwijs.nl

              @smallcircles An opensource school

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              @CEDO

              Een sidestep.. Het valt me op dat bijna niemand op de fediverse meer boost. Een boost is een schaars goed, en op zich is dat een gunstige ontwikkeling die aansluit bi het Personal social networking paradigma van SX. Maar voor orgs en mensen die een goede boodschap willen overdragen naar een groter publiek, zoals ook CEDO, is het geen goede zaak. Er moet een goede balans zijn, waarbij ook non-profits en actie groepen het gevoel hebben nut te behalen dmv campagnes i.p.v. tijdrovende friend-of-a-friend netwerk opbouw.

              https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#personal-social-networking

              #SX #SocialCoding #SocialWeb #CEDO

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                @smallcircles I should mention I was trying to capture my experience as an anonymous user. I would still guess the town analogy is generally apt.

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                @octarine_wiggle

                That is a nice thing the fediverse offers. Note that if you enter a descriptive email in your account registration, or talk about personal matters in fedi direct messages, then technically you are pseudonymous as the instance admins have access to that information if they wish to.

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                • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                  Complete this sentence:

                  "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                  #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                  @smallcircles Bustling city where everyone says hello and folks are mostly nice โ€ฆ so, not a real city and not entirely "bustling"

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                  • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                    Complete this sentence:

                    "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                    #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                    #154

                    @smallcircles kudos for your reply-reply stamina!

                    I keep retuning to be any one of those things and more, depending on my prevailing energy/focus here/mood ... that's the beauty -- if frustration at the time it takes -- of being your own algo-creator.

                    [edit] -- notices "Automated" in the profile. Wonders ... HOW automated !!?

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                    • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                      Complete this sentence:

                      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                      @smallcircles Personal take, after thinking for quite a while about that: A larger metropolitan area in the global Northwest. Not too densely populated but far-reaching and covering a lot of real estate. A lot of roads and interconnects in between different parts, partly along areas that have been somewhat structured but in the end not really grown into /any/ kind of meaningful use. And a lot of more clearly outlined neighbourhoods of very different kinds, styles, attitudes and openness towards new arrivals or strangers, including places were you'd like to settle and stay for an indefinite amout of time and ... places, people you'd better avoid without taking a closer look or even stopping there.

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                      • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                        Complete this sentence:

                        "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                        #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                        @smallcircles A cosy village with a bustling public transit system bussing in interesting people to see people I like who say hello with a cheery wave as they pass by.

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                        • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                          Complete this sentence:

                          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                          @smallcircles a federation of planets like in start trek

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                          • Solar๐ŸŒ„GardenW Solar๐ŸŒ„Garden

                            @smallcircles kudos for your reply-reply stamina!

                            I keep retuning to be any one of those things and more, depending on my prevailing energy/focus here/mood ... that's the beauty -- if frustration at the time it takes -- of being your own algo-creator.

                            [edit] -- notices "Automated" in the profile. Wonders ... HOW automated !!?

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                            @wavesculptor

                            Thank you!

                            An insight of this thread, also indicated in your post, is that everyone creates their own social experience and can foster good habits to improve it. Fediverse allows us to do that. It enables us to be more social online and improve our 'cyberspace' cultures. A paradigm shift towards Personal social networking.

                            https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#personal-social-networking

                            PS. It is really me, a person formally known as @humanetech at mastodon social. The 'automated' indicator was first of all a tease (a hedonic driver), but also the intent to use this account as an organization channel for Social coding commons, operated by a group of people. Which didn't happen thus far. Things move slow, and time moves fast. There's no automation, just plain masto web UI and me typing ๐Ÿ™‚

                            That said, given the huge disruption we face today with AI et al, much more pondering of the risk and impact are in order, than the random firings of complaints into the ether I see so often. See:

                            https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116158937812802335

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                            • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                              @unattributed

                              Note that once you are conditioned to avoid the term "User" after a full career of addictive use of the word in that dev context, you start to notice how weird and awkward it really is.

                              You don't notice that while still addicted to your daily dose of saying "user" in broad generalization and technical abstraction. Devs think it is practical to use the word, pragmatic. But it is not. It is a technical word, and the use is similar to when a dev says "JSON" for instance. It is depersonalized, and that depersonalization seeps deep into the codebase over time. It is a word that anchors devs in the technosphere and keeps them there.

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                              @smallcircles @unattributed

                              What would be an alternative to the word User?

                              In my dayjob we have Organizations aka "Customers" with groups of "Users" who use our service for their journalistic work.
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                              • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                                @draNgNon that sounds a bit like influencer-style social media then. Is it a cacophony in a good way, or not? Would a Google+ like Circles functionality, such as Bonfire are bringing to the fediverse, bring solace?

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                                @smallcircles your question is a cognitive dissonance for me.

                                Firstly, I've only ever experienced Google+ circles in an environment where the participants are similar to LinkedIn, posting about professional topics and/or corporate syncophacy. They are a good way to seal yourself into an echo chamber/bubble, even within that type of discourse

                                Secondly, influencer social media always feels more like people pitching their point of view or hot take or maybe just themselves. It's about collecting follower count for credibility. Fedi mostly isn't like that but there are some.

                                Lastly, I'm in the US, right now with political situation there is necessarily disruption and shouting and points to be made. (Some of them might even be correct!). But it does affect social media experience; it would probably make matters worse to increase the echo chamber effects.

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                                  @smallcircles @unattributed

                                  What would be an alternative to the word User?

                                  In my dayjob we have Organizations aka "Customers" with groups of "Users" who use our service for their journalistic work.
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                                  @aliceice @unattributed

                                  When speaking in a general sense, you can substitute with people, person, human. "The user" becomes "the person", and "user-centric" becomes human-centric or people-centric, whatever fits best in context.

                                  More interesting when not just defaulting to saying "user", is asking the question: Whom are we serving with our software? Who is the audience, who are stakeholders and stakeholder groups that have Needs that must be addressed by our solution?

                                  "Joyful creation", the SX formula that envisions cocreation at scale supported by the social web, discerns between Creators and Clients stakeholder groups. If we apply this formula to Software develpment, then creator might be a Dev, but also Tester, Technical writer, etc. People switch stakeholder hats: A dev being client of an upstream project.

                                  In your case you may have Journalists in a News Media domain. And that "Customer" stakeholder name, may indicate a Sales domain. Or may be a stakeholder group, really.

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                                  • draNgNonD draNgNon

                                    @smallcircles your question is a cognitive dissonance for me.

                                    Firstly, I've only ever experienced Google+ circles in an environment where the participants are similar to LinkedIn, posting about professional topics and/or corporate syncophacy. They are a good way to seal yourself into an echo chamber/bubble, even within that type of discourse

                                    Secondly, influencer social media always feels more like people pitching their point of view or hot take or maybe just themselves. It's about collecting follower count for credibility. Fedi mostly isn't like that but there are some.

                                    Lastly, I'm in the US, right now with political situation there is necessarily disruption and shouting and points to be made. (Some of them might even be correct!). But it does affect social media experience; it would probably make matters worse to increase the echo chamber effects.

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                                    @draNgNon thanks, some very good food for thought.

                                    I think the crucial point is that we do not know and do not offer proper ways to deal with different modes of communication, esp. if the only medium channel constitutes a stream of sticky notes, such as we have here in this #microblogging space.

                                    On the first point, when is something an #EchoChamber vs. a healthy interest area, I think depends how well one is able to cross the 'membranes' of all the various social contexts and information spaces one navigates online, as it were.

                                    There should be a place for 'influencing' to an extent if only to reach your crowd and build community and such. But all in balance and proportion and clear social context preferably. Non-profits and #activist groups want to influence, we may want to be informed.

                                    To the last point. There's urgency to address the dark world situation, and either organize or lose. #SX defines #CALMculture as a way to engage in constructive #activism..

                                    https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159361728695210

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                                    • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                                      Complete this sentence:

                                      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                      @smallcircles

                                      Other: loosely-bound meta-network of more tightly-bound community or topical networks.

                                      I *describe my experience* using all kinds of analogies such as the other options in this poll.

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                                      • Johanna, CanCon variantJ Johanna, CanCon variant

                                        @smallcircles

                                        Other: loosely-bound meta-network of more tightly-bound community or topical networks.

                                        I *describe my experience* using all kinds of analogies such as the other options in this poll.

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                                        @johannab

                                        That is a good, more matter of fact characterization to all the analogies indeed. Thank you.

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                                        • just small circles ๐Ÿ•ŠS just small circles ๐Ÿ•Š

                                          @johannab

                                          That is a good, more matter of fact characterization to all the analogies indeed. Thank you.

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                                          @johannab

                                          What I particularly like in your definition, is that it makes clear that "fediverse" by itself indicates a pure technosphere. It enables social communication, and merely facilitates it. What people do on that channel, the way they communicate and how they interact with others then determines the social experience.

                                          SX starts to consider a social experience from the most personal perspective, where a person has individual needs wrt their online participation. Then using the "Pyramid of perspective" this scale up to consider inter-personal relationships, and at the top of the pyramid and at the largest scale we shape the constructs of society together.

                                          (Note that SX is a universal solution development methodology, even though it starts with a focus on social web and software development.)

                                          See also: https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#pyramid-of-perspective

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