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My experience of the #fediverse :

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  • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)D David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

    @_elena

    People who use X are increasingly radicalised until they end up as Nazis.

    People who use Mastodon are increasingly radicalised until they end up as C programmers.

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    @david_chisnall @_elena

    "People who use Mastodon are increasingly radicalised until they end up as C programmers."

    Some people just want to watch the world burn.

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    • Rebecca SegersR Rebecca Segers

      @_elena I'm glad that your experience has worked out so well. My year 1 mirrored yours and has continued to be so largely bc the fediverse seems oriented toward and around techies. I'm not one and am not interested in becoming one.

      So how do I find community here?

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      @rebelyn2 I would say follow a lot of hashtags of topics that interest you and you will find your people...

      I love this about the fediverse, that you can simply follow hashtags and easily populate your feed with interesting content....

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      • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

        My experience of the #fediverse :

        Year 1 (2023):
        It feels a little lonely as 99% of my friends stayed on Big Tech platforms.

        Year 2 (2024):
        I start a blog - #TheFutureIsFederated - to explain the fediverse to "normies"... and I make a lot of new (techie) friends.

        Year 3 (2025):
        My techie friends encourage me to start self-hosting with #YunoHost... and I do! (GoToSocial, PeerTube, NextCloud...) I LOVE it.

        Year 4 (2026):
        I plan to buy a Heltec to try out off-grid mesh radio communication 💁‍♀️

        Renke MeuweseM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @_elena so slow, I joined Mastodon in january and already am on Meshcore now ;-). The indoctrination pipeline has accelerated maybe? Looking into Reticulum now to integrate off-grid with grid communication.

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        • Luca SironiL Luca Sironi

          @_elena @3rik

          2027 is #proxmox year, when you will move all your services on a #homelab

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          @luca @3rik 😆

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          • Ian K TindaleU Ian K Tindale

            @_elena I’d suggest buy two nodes, so you can tell if it’s working or not. The second one is always going to be useful if you put it somewhere near you and high up. Having two is reassuring when you see it working between the two.

            In fact, there’s MeshCore and Meshtastic, it’s worth being on both depending on the exact area (some are more MeshCore, some are more Meshtastic), so really, I’d suggest getting four nodes!

            You’ll end up buying more than that in the long run, maybe not all at once in one go.

            I also wrote up a page on which nodes I recommend for giving to family members, once you’re into it and can’t stop buying nodes (too early to reveal that?)
            pikopublish.ing/u0421793/bolg/whichradio.xhtml

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            @u0421793 thank you for all the helpful insights Ian. I've bookmarked your toot and I will definitely use it as reference 😊

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            • Fernando M. S. 🇵🇸F Fernando M. S. 🇵🇸

              @_elena watch out! Speaking of MacGyver can be used as an age verification criterion... 😂

              Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @fmors 😂

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              • leosamL leosam

                @andy @_elena from Lyon we have managed to communicate with the extreme Germany, close to the triple frontier between Germany, Austria and Czechia. Its rock solid in terms of connectivity.

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                @leosam @andy oooh amazing! I'll definitely reach out when I have my system up and running in Paris

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                • B banshee7076

                  @_elena 👏🏻
                  I'm starting my Big Tech de-cluttering.
                  If it's not a secret, what else are you self-hosting?

                  Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @banshee7076 awesome!

                  In terms of other things I'm self-hosting:
                  - Umami (a privacy-respecting, FOSS, Google Analytics alternative)
                  - LinkStack (a FOSS Linktree alternative)
                  - Pixelfed
                  - I just installed AppFlowy (a FOSS Notion alternative) but I have yet to set it up and try it

                  Edit/Update: I'm not self-hosting it but paying for Linkwarden (a FOSS Pocket alternative)

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                  • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                    My experience of the #fediverse :

                    Year 1 (2023):
                    It feels a little lonely as 99% of my friends stayed on Big Tech platforms.

                    Year 2 (2024):
                    I start a blog - #TheFutureIsFederated - to explain the fediverse to "normies"... and I make a lot of new (techie) friends.

                    Year 3 (2025):
                    My techie friends encourage me to start self-hosting with #YunoHost... and I do! (GoToSocial, PeerTube, NextCloud...) I LOVE it.

                    Year 4 (2026):
                    I plan to buy a Heltec to try out off-grid mesh radio communication 💁‍♀️

                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @_elena it's very hard to get people's on fediverse or #opensource platform. I barely managed to get 3 friends over signal from WhatsApp. 😂. Nobody wants to leave WhatsApp or insta 😅.whenever I tell them about signal or Mastodon they laughed and asked me... What? Signal? Mastodon?

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                    • ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G ĞÖKÜ👻👻™

                      @_elena it's very hard to get people's on fediverse or #opensource platform. I barely managed to get 3 friends over signal from WhatsApp. 😂. Nobody wants to leave WhatsApp or insta 😅.whenever I tell them about signal or Mastodon they laughed and asked me... What? Signal? Mastodon?

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                      @GOKUSHRM @_elena the few people i've managed to convince to open a Signal account just message me through WhatsApp anyway, or uninstall the app after a few weeks

                      more attention needs to be brought to the fact that WhatsApp is extremely likely to be backdoored and it's owned by an *evil* corporation that lives off of exploiting people's interests or insecurities for hyper-targeted advertising, it's in their best interest to PRETEND their platform is secure so users think they're not being watched

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                      • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                        @fmors 14 years on Twitter (2008-2022) and I didn't learn a single thing.

                        4 years on the Fediverse and I feel like MacGyver 😂

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                        @_elena @fmors
                        My favourite toot of the year so far 😄

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                        • SynnefS Synnef

                          @GOKUSHRM @_elena the few people i've managed to convince to open a Signal account just message me through WhatsApp anyway, or uninstall the app after a few weeks

                          more attention needs to be brought to the fact that WhatsApp is extremely likely to be backdoored and it's owned by an *evil* corporation that lives off of exploiting people's interests or insecurities for hyper-targeted advertising, it's in their best interest to PRETEND their platform is secure so users think they're not being watched

                          Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @synnef @GOKUSHRM I wrote about how I deleted my Whatsapp account and moved to Signal in January 2020: https://therealists.org/2020/01/quitting-whatsapp-facebook-s-grand-illusion/

                          The post was written at the time of my departure and I convinced 90% of my friends and family to install Signal to keep communicating with me. I got entire groups to move there. My proudest moment in my FOSS journey 😅

                          For those who didn't move, we kept communicating via SMS or iMessage.

                          6 years later I feel super grateful about how smooth this transition was

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                          • Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @kiwiWolle hahaha 😂 🥰

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                            • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                              My experience of the #fediverse :

                              Year 1 (2023):
                              It feels a little lonely as 99% of my friends stayed on Big Tech platforms.

                              Year 2 (2024):
                              I start a blog - #TheFutureIsFederated - to explain the fediverse to "normies"... and I make a lot of new (techie) friends.

                              Year 3 (2025):
                              My techie friends encourage me to start self-hosting with #YunoHost... and I do! (GoToSocial, PeerTube, NextCloud...) I LOVE it.

                              Year 4 (2026):
                              I plan to buy a Heltec to try out off-grid mesh radio communication 💁‍♀️

                              wsmW This user is from outside of this forum
                              wsmW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @_elena

                              See Reticulum

                              https://youtu.be/XTnYVh7K6xQ

                              📷 Data Slayer Media

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                              • Ian K TindaleU Ian K Tindale

                                @andy @james @_elena I’m getting all the way up and down England and since a day or so ago Northern Ireland too, also, as well now on MeshCore.

                                On Meshtastic I’m able to get from home in Beckton Park to Royal Albert dock, which is about one stop on the DLR. There’s no conversation on it ever, nobody ever replies, but it has an impressive mesh map with lots of coloured blobs on.

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                                @u0421793 @james @_elena I’ve not used Meshtastic, though I believe there’s a fair bit of non-human traffic on there, while MeshCore is more chat-focused. I may be mistaken, but that's the impression I have.

                                There was some difference regarding the way messages are repeated between the two as well, though I forget exactly what. I know on #MeshCore that Repeaters can't be Companions and vice-versa, and static repeaters are strongly encouraged.

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                                • wsmW wsm

                                  @_elena

                                  See Reticulum

                                  https://youtu.be/XTnYVh7K6xQ

                                  📷 Data Slayer Media

                                  Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @weldon thank you, I'll check this out (I got multiple recommendations about it)

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                                  • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                                    My experience of the #fediverse :

                                    Year 1 (2023):
                                    It feels a little lonely as 99% of my friends stayed on Big Tech platforms.

                                    Year 2 (2024):
                                    I start a blog - #TheFutureIsFederated - to explain the fediverse to "normies"... and I make a lot of new (techie) friends.

                                    Year 3 (2025):
                                    My techie friends encourage me to start self-hosting with #YunoHost... and I do! (GoToSocial, PeerTube, NextCloud...) I LOVE it.

                                    Year 4 (2026):
                                    I plan to buy a Heltec to try out off-grid mesh radio communication 💁‍♀️

                                    RightSprung will not complyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @_elena

                                    Haaa looking at meshcore also! 🙂

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                                    • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                                      My experience of the #fediverse :

                                      Year 1 (2023):
                                      It feels a little lonely as 99% of my friends stayed on Big Tech platforms.

                                      Year 2 (2024):
                                      I start a blog - #TheFutureIsFederated - to explain the fediverse to "normies"... and I make a lot of new (techie) friends.

                                      Year 3 (2025):
                                      My techie friends encourage me to start self-hosting with #YunoHost... and I do! (GoToSocial, PeerTube, NextCloud...) I LOVE it.

                                      Year 4 (2026):
                                      I plan to buy a Heltec to try out off-grid mesh radio communication 💁‍♀️

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                                      @_elena and here i am...fresh new out of FB hellhole knowing absolutely nothing, wondering left and right and seeing this...is radio communication getting back or do i read it wrong? 😮

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                                      • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)D David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

                                        @_elena

                                        People who use X are increasingly radicalised until they end up as Nazis.

                                        People who use Mastodon are increasingly radicalised until they end up as C programmers.

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                                        @david_chisnall @_elena what an excellent note, especially in light of this paper I just read yesterday, on C's longevity https://www.humprog.org/~stephen/research/papers/kell17some-preprint.pdf "Some Were Meant for C"

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                                        • Andrew DavisonA Andrew Davison

                                          @u0421793 @james @_elena I’ve not used Meshtastic, though I believe there’s a fair bit of non-human traffic on there, while MeshCore is more chat-focused. I may be mistaken, but that's the impression I have.

                                          There was some difference regarding the way messages are repeated between the two as well, though I forget exactly what. I know on #MeshCore that Repeaters can't be Companions and vice-versa, and static repeaters are strongly encouraged.

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                                          @andy @james @_elena it can depend on the area. Meshtastic in London is basically useless, it doesn’t work. I can send messages out but nobody replies, they’re either ignoring it or aren’t receiving it. The only times it works is if a plane flies over and someone on it has a node and they’re sending out messages saying that they’re on a plane (usually with the flight no.). Then it works. All the other time, never.

                                          If I go up to Crewe, though, there’s a load of people all around that pretty wide area all chatting all day, and I get most of the messages and people get my replies. Except when I’m in the house, those old houses are impenetrable.

                                          MeshCore is quite popular there too, so both of them seem to run side by side. Except when I go up there, I’m only taking my companion node on MeshCore, obviously I’m leaving my repeater node behind.

                                          If I go to Gibraltar, there’s loads of Meshtastic people chatting, although it’s almost all from the south of Spain, in Spanish. But it’s all day long. MeshCore in Gib was zero.

                                          When we went to Jamaica at the end of last year a few weeks after Melissa, I took lots of nodes, within our family we had three MeshPockets mostly for use as Qi2 phone topping up battery banks, but which incidentally helped expand the mesh, but which mesh - the ones I took out to experiment with were a pair of T114s, and a pair of Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed T1000e [1] and tried them on all the different region settings, the US setting, the EU/UK setting, lots of them. In the end I concluded that Jamaica should be AU915, the Australian setting, and with MeshCore I found that as soon as we went down the road a little bit, the contact with the T114 (acting as a repeater) at the house was lost, so MeshCore never really worked out there for us, as we were literally the only people (well I was, the rest of the family weren’t interested) with mesh radios of any kind. MeshCore’s dependence upon a fixed repeater was useless because within minutes whenever we went anywhere, we were out of range of it.

                                          So in the end I switched all the ones I took to Jamaica over to Meshtastic on AU915, and when we left, Jamaica, I left behind the two T114s and the two T1000es with family (and some fold-up solar panels I didn’t want to take back with me). Indubitably those are probably lost or gone and have never been charged since we left, but who knows, they’re there anyway, so maybe they might be useful in the long run.

                                          That’s what I mean, that’s why I suggest to try both, and try and have a pair of each (MC and MT) so you can see stuff happening at least by yourself.

                                          [1] not the ‘for Meshtastic’ ones, I couldn’t get those in time, so I got a pair of the ‘for LoRaWan’ ones, but that didn’t matter, because with the MeshCore or Meshtastic firmware on they acted exactly the same as the other would’ve been

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