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I Hate My Friend: The chatbot-enabled Friend necklace eavesdrops on your life and provides a running commentary that’s snarky and unhelpful. Worse, it can also make the people around you uneasy.

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  • alyaza [they/she]A alyaza [they/she]

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    The AI-powered Friend pendant is now out in the world. If you live in the US or Canada, you can buy one for $129.

    The smooth plastic disc is just under 2 inches in diameter; it looks and feels a little like a beefy Apple AirTag. Inside are some LEDs and a Bluetooth radio that connects you (through your iPhone) to a chatbot in the cloud that’s powered by Google’s Gemini 2.5 model. You can tap on the disc to ask your Friend questions as it dangles around your neck, and it responds to your voice prompts by sending you text messages through the companion app. You can reply to these messages with your voice or via text to keep the conversation going.

    It also listens to whatever you’re doing as you move through the world, no tap required, and offers a running commentary on the interactions you have throughout your day. To perform that trick, the device has microphones that are always activated.

    If the idea of a microphone-packed wearable that’s always listening to your conversations raises privacy concerns for you, just know that you’re not alone. If your experience is anything like ours, wearing the Friend will likely earn you the ire of everyone around you. Curiously, you might even end up being bullied by the chatbot itself.

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    coyotino [he/him]
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    why are techbros so obsessed with AI-wearables? first the Rabbit, then the Humane pin, now this? We already have phones that listen to us 24/7, why do they think anyone wants another thing to lug around?

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    • alyaza [they/she]A alyaza [they/she]

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      The AI-powered Friend pendant is now out in the world. If you live in the US or Canada, you can buy one for $129.

      The smooth plastic disc is just under 2 inches in diameter; it looks and feels a little like a beefy Apple AirTag. Inside are some LEDs and a Bluetooth radio that connects you (through your iPhone) to a chatbot in the cloud that’s powered by Google’s Gemini 2.5 model. You can tap on the disc to ask your Friend questions as it dangles around your neck, and it responds to your voice prompts by sending you text messages through the companion app. You can reply to these messages with your voice or via text to keep the conversation going.

      It also listens to whatever you’re doing as you move through the world, no tap required, and offers a running commentary on the interactions you have throughout your day. To perform that trick, the device has microphones that are always activated.

      If the idea of a microphone-packed wearable that’s always listening to your conversations raises privacy concerns for you, just know that you’re not alone. If your experience is anything like ours, wearing the Friend will likely earn you the ire of everyone around you. Curiously, you might even end up being bullied by the chatbot itself.

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      FaceDeer
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      Well, don’t use it then.

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      • alyaza [they/she]A alyaza [they/she]

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        The AI-powered Friend pendant is now out in the world. If you live in the US or Canada, you can buy one for $129.

        The smooth plastic disc is just under 2 inches in diameter; it looks and feels a little like a beefy Apple AirTag. Inside are some LEDs and a Bluetooth radio that connects you (through your iPhone) to a chatbot in the cloud that’s powered by Google’s Gemini 2.5 model. You can tap on the disc to ask your Friend questions as it dangles around your neck, and it responds to your voice prompts by sending you text messages through the companion app. You can reply to these messages with your voice or via text to keep the conversation going.

        It also listens to whatever you’re doing as you move through the world, no tap required, and offers a running commentary on the interactions you have throughout your day. To perform that trick, the device has microphones that are always activated.

        If the idea of a microphone-packed wearable that’s always listening to your conversations raises privacy concerns for you, just know that you’re not alone. If your experience is anything like ours, wearing the Friend will likely earn you the ire of everyone around you. Curiously, you might even end up being bullied by the chatbot itself.

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        unmagical@lemmy.ml
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        #6

        You can conveniently ask the device around your neck a question.

        You then must pull out a different device from your pocket with exactly the same functionality to get the answer thereby saving you 0 time.

        This privilege costs over $100.

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          Vodulas [they/them]
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          Can’t really say that when it is an always listening device. Can’t really not use it if someone around you has one

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            Can’t really say that when it is an always listening device. Can’t really not use it if someone around you has one

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            FaceDeer
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            Unfortunately we live in a world where people often have the right to do things that we personally disapprove of.

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              Vodulas [they/them]
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              Then your original comment means nothing. Also, two-party consent is pretty common

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                Then your original comment means nothing. Also, two-party consent is pretty common

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                FaceDeer
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                It’s not universal. Where I live it’s one-party consent.

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                  Vodulas [they/them]
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                  OK? Again the comment of “Don’t use it” is even more pointless if you live in a single party consent state.

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                  • V Vodulas [they/them]

                    OK? Again the comment of “Don’t use it” is even more pointless if you live in a single party consent state.

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                    FaceDeer
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                    But my comment about how people have the right to do things you personally disapprove of is even more pointful.

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                      spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org
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                      people have the right to do things you personally disapprove of

                      meanwhile, literally in the headline:

                      Worse, it can also make the people around you uneasy.

                      no one is saying you don’t have “the right” to wear this Spyware Pendant in your one-party consent state.

                      people are saying it’s creepy and you’re jumping in defending it with “well, technically, it’s not illegal, depending on state law”. you’re just completely missing the point entirely.

                      this is like, if someone wrote an article about how people are annoyed by someone microwaving fish in the office cafeteria, you chimed in with “well they can simply quit and find a different job where people don’t microwave fish at the office”.

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                      • alyaza [they/she]A alyaza [they/she]

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                        The AI-powered Friend pendant is now out in the world. If you live in the US or Canada, you can buy one for $129.

                        The smooth plastic disc is just under 2 inches in diameter; it looks and feels a little like a beefy Apple AirTag. Inside are some LEDs and a Bluetooth radio that connects you (through your iPhone) to a chatbot in the cloud that’s powered by Google’s Gemini 2.5 model. You can tap on the disc to ask your Friend questions as it dangles around your neck, and it responds to your voice prompts by sending you text messages through the companion app. You can reply to these messages with your voice or via text to keep the conversation going.

                        It also listens to whatever you’re doing as you move through the world, no tap required, and offers a running commentary on the interactions you have throughout your day. To perform that trick, the device has microphones that are always activated.

                        If the idea of a microphone-packed wearable that’s always listening to your conversations raises privacy concerns for you, just know that you’re not alone. If your experience is anything like ours, wearing the Friend will likely earn you the ire of everyone around you. Curiously, you might even end up being bullied by the chatbot itself.

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                        machinefab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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                        #14

                        If I wanted to READ ai “snark”, I would spend more time on facebook, or go back to reddit. How hard could it be to slap a battery and 4G/5G modem on a google home or alexa? Eiter of which would be easier to run on a phone or tablet, which also includes speakers.

                        How do these morons that can’t match the convenience of existing privacy nightmares, or even DIY stuff, continue to get VC funding?

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                          Phoenixz
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                          Uh huh

                          And what about those around you? What about the people in the streets, the people you interact with?

                          I don’t want this shit but now I have no choice, I WILL BE MONITORED.

                          The only way out is to be a fucking hermit in the forest, at this point

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                          • coyotino [he/him]T coyotino [he/him]

                            why are techbros so obsessed with AI-wearables? first the Rabbit, then the Humane pin, now this? We already have phones that listen to us 24/7, why do they think anyone wants another thing to lug around?

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                            spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org
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                            “data is the new oil”

                            most people keep their phones in their pockets, which would ruin audio quality for 24/7 listening, and Apple and Android are able to restrict app permissions as well to prevent it.

                            VC money doesn’t care about whether normal people actually want a device like this. what they’re really after is “we’re collecting a bunch of user-specific data that no one else has, that we can sell to people who think it’ll help them do better ad targeting (among other things)”

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                            • S spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org

                              people have the right to do things you personally disapprove of

                              meanwhile, literally in the headline:

                              Worse, it can also make the people around you uneasy.

                              no one is saying you don’t have “the right” to wear this Spyware Pendant in your one-party consent state.

                              people are saying it’s creepy and you’re jumping in defending it with “well, technically, it’s not illegal, depending on state law”. you’re just completely missing the point entirely.

                              this is like, if someone wrote an article about how people are annoyed by someone microwaving fish in the office cafeteria, you chimed in with “well they can simply quit and find a different job where people don’t microwave fish at the office”.

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                              FaceDeer
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                              no one is saying you don’t have “the right” to wear this

                              Okay, we’re in agreement then.

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                                “data is the new oil”

                                most people keep their phones in their pockets, which would ruin audio quality for 24/7 listening, and Apple and Android are able to restrict app permissions as well to prevent it.

                                VC money doesn’t care about whether normal people actually want a device like this. what they’re really after is “we’re collecting a bunch of user-specific data that no one else has, that we can sell to people who think it’ll help them do better ad targeting (among other things)”

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                                coyotino [he/him]
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                                Yeah that adds up. Everything is about naked, cynical capitalism now. I guess my millennial brain is stuck in the era where I thought the point of consumer electronics was to make cool devices that people wanted to buy.

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                                  Vodulas [they/them]
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                                  No, that comment is pointless regardless. Of course people can do things I don’t like. That was never in question. That does not mean they are free from consequences or societal repercussions.

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                                    spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org
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                                    yeah, no, we still disagree. I think you are missing the point completely, and continually.

                                    general protip: if the conversation is about some behavior being creepy or weird or against social mores, and you jump in talking about the legality of it, you are missing the point, and also contributing to the creepiness.

                                    for another example, upskirt photography was legal in the US until 2004 (at least at the federal level, state laws seem to have trickled in around the same timeframe)

                                    hop in a time machine back to 2000, and imagine there’s a digital camera that’s marketing itself as being very easy to attach to your shoe in order to take surreptitious upskirt photos.

                                    people say “wow that’s a fucking creepy product” and you jump in to say that technically it’s not illegal, and people have the right to attach cameras to their shoes. and if a woman is wearing a skirt in a crowd of people, and sees a guy with a camera on his shoe, she has the right to walk away from him. that is technically true, and also completely misses the actual point.

                                    if you think upskirt photos are a bad analogy, here’s a reddit thread from 2 weeks ago about a gynecologist wearing the “Meta Ray-Ban” sunglasses that have a built-in camera.

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                                      Yeah that adds up. Everything is about naked, cynical capitalism now. I guess my millennial brain is stuck in the era where I thought the point of consumer electronics was to make cool devices that people wanted to buy.

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                                      onyxonblack@lemmy.zip
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                                      This is the end, my friend

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                                      • alyaza [they/she]A alyaza [they/she]

                                        archive.is link

                                        The AI-powered Friend pendant is now out in the world. If you live in the US or Canada, you can buy one for $129.

                                        The smooth plastic disc is just under 2 inches in diameter; it looks and feels a little like a beefy Apple AirTag. Inside are some LEDs and a Bluetooth radio that connects you (through your iPhone) to a chatbot in the cloud that’s powered by Google’s Gemini 2.5 model. You can tap on the disc to ask your Friend questions as it dangles around your neck, and it responds to your voice prompts by sending you text messages through the companion app. You can reply to these messages with your voice or via text to keep the conversation going.

                                        It also listens to whatever you’re doing as you move through the world, no tap required, and offers a running commentary on the interactions you have throughout your day. To perform that trick, the device has microphones that are always activated.

                                        If the idea of a microphone-packed wearable that’s always listening to your conversations raises privacy concerns for you, just know that you’re not alone. If your experience is anything like ours, wearing the Friend will likely earn you the ire of everyone around you. Curiously, you might even end up being bullied by the chatbot itself.

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                                        DrWorm
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                                        Totally normal

                                        In our meeting, he asked us not to unbox the devices in front of him because he is in love with someone and wants the first time he witnesses a Friend unboxing to be with her.

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                                        • S spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org

                                          yeah, no, we still disagree. I think you are missing the point completely, and continually.

                                          general protip: if the conversation is about some behavior being creepy or weird or against social mores, and you jump in talking about the legality of it, you are missing the point, and also contributing to the creepiness.

                                          for another example, upskirt photography was legal in the US until 2004 (at least at the federal level, state laws seem to have trickled in around the same timeframe)

                                          hop in a time machine back to 2000, and imagine there’s a digital camera that’s marketing itself as being very easy to attach to your shoe in order to take surreptitious upskirt photos.

                                          people say “wow that’s a fucking creepy product” and you jump in to say that technically it’s not illegal, and people have the right to attach cameras to their shoes. and if a woman is wearing a skirt in a crowd of people, and sees a guy with a camera on his shoe, she has the right to walk away from him. that is technically true, and also completely misses the actual point.

                                          if you think upskirt photos are a bad analogy, here’s a reddit thread from 2 weeks ago about a gynecologist wearing the “Meta Ray-Ban” sunglasses that have a built-in camera.

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                                          FaceDeer
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                                          yeah, no, we still disagree.

                                          Okay, then, we’re in disagreement. But I’m still able to use it, so.

                                          Call it creepy if you want, that’s fine, that’s your opinion. It’s not infringing anyone’s rights.

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