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  • A YappyMonotheist

    Whoever talks seriously about “racial politics” and not at least “cultural politics” is already lost, has never interacted with people deeply outside of their same tribe (because then he’d see how any important differences are not racial and genetic but learned, ideological and sociocultural) and probably gets all his “information” regarding the narratives and metanarratives from propaganda feeds. 🤷

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    ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    I mean, you’re entirely correct, but there’s also racial politics as in “race relations”. Like “why are we regressing on race based civil liberty protections and seeing an upswing in racial prejudice”.

    Racial groups don’t have homogeneous political opinions, but they are often the subject of political opinions.

    All that to say: there are many different ways to express a disgustingly inappropriate blend of racial and political opinions in a workplace, and we shouldn’t assume they picked any particular inappropriate way.

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      Saying “I do not like white supremacists and they are bad people” is enough to get people fired as of late

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        tracaine@lemmy.world
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        He revealed his power level. That’s never a winning move.

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          Saying “I do not like white supremacists and they are bad people” is enough to get people fired as of late

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          theneverfox@pawb.social
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          Only if you’re in the media

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            Anonymous would have known enough to be correct and also not get fired.

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            duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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            There’s three minutes between the posts. It’s just a joke.

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            • theneverfox@pawb.socialT theneverfox@pawb.social

              Only if you’re in the media

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              I had heard from some family about their coworkers getting fired for that sentiment. I don’t know the exact phrasing of their posts.

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                pipe01@programming.dev
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                It only took 3 minutes, damn

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                  I had heard from some family about their coworkers getting fired for that sentiment. I don’t know the exact phrasing of their posts.

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                  bigpotato@lemmy.world
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                  Yeah, apparently HR has some issues with “I would slice a Nazis head off for free, don’t even ask me what I’d pay to do it.”

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                  • R ricecake@sh.itjust.works

                    I mean, you’re entirely correct, but there’s also racial politics as in “race relations”. Like “why are we regressing on race based civil liberty protections and seeing an upswing in racial prejudice”.

                    Racial groups don’t have homogeneous political opinions, but they are often the subject of political opinions.

                    All that to say: there are many different ways to express a disgustingly inappropriate blend of racial and political opinions in a workplace, and we shouldn’t assume they picked any particular inappropriate way.

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                    dragonstaff@leminal.space
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                    V for Vendetta masks tend to be libertarian iconography.

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                    • A YappyMonotheist

                      Whoever talks seriously about “racial politics” and not at least “cultural politics” is already lost, has never interacted with people deeply outside of their same tribe (because then he’d see how any important differences are not racial and genetic but learned, ideological and sociocultural) and probably gets all his “information” regarding the narratives and metanarratives from propaganda feeds. 🤷

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                      mrkawfee@feddit.uk
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                      Race has no scientific basis. It is a purely social construction from the Victorian era.

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                      • D dragonstaff@leminal.space

                        V for Vendetta masks tend to be libertarian iconography.

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                        ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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                        They’re also just general 4chan Internet weirdo. I take it you’re thinking there’s a particular type of racism libertarians are more prone to? Probably “we don’t need racial discrimination protections, the market will punish it if people care”?

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                          chaoticneutralczech@feddit.org
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                          The collegues at my last job were also racists (aka typical Czechs), and I jokingly threatened to maim one with a sickle I happened to have on me. He took it lightly but I quit soon after anyway.

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                          • theneverfox@pawb.socialT theneverfox@pawb.social

                            Only if you’re in the media

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                            prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            No, not only in the media.

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                              GladiusB
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                              I don’t talk about politics at work. Simply because I am there to make money. Not talk about things that I really don’t have much of an interest in. Politics is a boring fucking subject. It’s all the old rich white dudes trying to convince us it’s not the old rich white dudes. It’s a set game. There are hundreds of things I would rather talk about.

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                              • GladiusBG GladiusB

                                I don’t talk about politics at work. Simply because I am there to make money. Not talk about things that I really don’t have much of an interest in. Politics is a boring fucking subject. It’s all the old rich white dudes trying to convince us it’s not the old rich white dudes. It’s a set game. There are hundreds of things I would rather talk about.

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                                jarix@lemmy.world
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                                I’m you are talking about politics wrong… Somehow.

                                That CAN be what politics discussions are about but that’s very echo chamber, negative circle jerk types stuff.

                                One thing that helps to have more interesting conversations is think on different scales. How are neighborhood politics different from national politics? Not all national issues show up in every community.

                                How I see things, politicians, of all kinds, are supposed to exist to solve the common problems that enough people face but cannot solve by themselves or their group.

                                Local politicians can better serve local issues, so start talking about smaller politics when you are crashed into those types of conversations.

                                Small thing everywhere are more important to most people than large things nowhere. And you can at least get other people to stop talking about the danger dumb shit you address probably suck of hearing about.

                                It does take a bit of effort to get started but once you do it a few times it’s pretty effective (in my experience)

                                Also if you can tie food into the issue you bring up most people have opinions on food

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                                • theneverfox@pawb.socialT theneverfox@pawb.social

                                  Only if you’re in the media

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                                  vitorobles@lemmy.today
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                                  People not in the media are getting fired for this. A art director who worked at Sony got fired for saying that he hopes the Charlie Kirk shooter was named Mario.

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                                  • V vitorobles@lemmy.today

                                    People not in the media are getting fired for this. A art director who worked at Sony got fired for saying that he hopes the Charlie Kirk shooter was named Mario.

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                                    theneverfox@pawb.social
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                                    That’s very different, making fun of the dead is way less socially acceptable than calling white supremacists bad people

                                    In this case I think that’s pretty funny, but that’s still a spicy joke

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                                    • J jarix@lemmy.world

                                      I’m you are talking about politics wrong… Somehow.

                                      That CAN be what politics discussions are about but that’s very echo chamber, negative circle jerk types stuff.

                                      One thing that helps to have more interesting conversations is think on different scales. How are neighborhood politics different from national politics? Not all national issues show up in every community.

                                      How I see things, politicians, of all kinds, are supposed to exist to solve the common problems that enough people face but cannot solve by themselves or their group.

                                      Local politicians can better serve local issues, so start talking about smaller politics when you are crashed into those types of conversations.

                                      Small thing everywhere are more important to most people than large things nowhere. And you can at least get other people to stop talking about the danger dumb shit you address probably suck of hearing about.

                                      It does take a bit of effort to get started but once you do it a few times it’s pretty effective (in my experience)

                                      Also if you can tie food into the issue you bring up most people have opinions on food

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                                      GladiusB
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                                      You’re first sentence seems to have a typo and I can’t make sense of what you are attempting to say.

                                      Talking of community is different than politics. Politics is leadership that manipulates and has power struggles. Community is quite normal and something I partake and participate regularly through sports and my kid’s school.

                                      I have taken political science and have a degree. I understand the subject. But it’s fuckin boring.

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                                      • C chaoticneutralczech@feddit.org

                                        The collegues at my last job were also racists (aka typical Czechs), and I jokingly threatened to maim one with a sickle I happened to have on me. He took it lightly but I quit soon after anyway.

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                                        thunderqueen@lemmy.world
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                                        Good on you for lightly maiming the racist before you quit /j

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                                        • theneverfox@pawb.socialT theneverfox@pawb.social

                                          That’s very different, making fun of the dead is way less socially acceptable than calling white supremacists bad people

                                          In this case I think that’s pretty funny, but that’s still a spicy joke

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                                          mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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                                          that’s not even making fun of the dead, though

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