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Borderlands 4 boss tells players "please get a refund from Steam if you aren't happy" as Randy Pitchford continues his very public crashout over the FPS's performance woes

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  • UlrichU Ulrich

    I think they would be better of by just ignoring

    I mean the best thing they could do is to acknowledge that the game could use some optimization and promise to continue working on it. Even if they have no intention of doing so. But that might get them in trouble with Nvidia since they slapped an “Nvidia optimized” badge on it.

    The worst thing they could do is say “buy a better PC”.

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    the_artic_one@programming.dev
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    I think that sticker just means you sent Nvidia a pre-release build so they had time to add game-specific hacks to their drivers before your launch.

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    • C cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Right because Cyberpunk looks amazing in 2025 and it ran like shit five years ago at launch.

      But 4K gaming is more demanding than people realise and gaming companies shouldn’t be getting so much flak for it.

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      acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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      why are we comparing a game 5 years ago to one released today? hardware is much more capable now.

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      • R Red_October

        This guy is why PR consultants and Social Media teams exist. Some people just should not have contact with the public. However good he might or might not be in his work on the project itself, someone should have told him to sit down and shut up and let someone who knows how not to damage the entire game with a single statement handle the communication.

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        frongt@lemmy.zip
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        Problem is, there’s no such thing as bad press. Here we are talking about it.

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          Problem is, there’s no such thing as bad press. Here we are talking about it.

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          killer57@lemmy.ca
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          Yep, talking about how I will never buy a gearbox game.

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          • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

            Is that someone from Mad Men? I don’t watch much TV.

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            notkyloren@lemmy.zip
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            Yes. It’s a clip from the show/meme where the other guy in the elevator says, “I feel sorry for you”. Then the guy in the picture above says, “I don’t even think about you.”

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              falsetautology@lemmy.zip
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              Randy has inspired me to purchase the game and immediately refund it. Thanks Randy!

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              • N notkyloren@lemmy.zip

                Yes. It’s a clip from the show/meme where the other guy in the elevator says, “I feel sorry for you”. Then the guy in the picture above says, “I don’t even think about you.”

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                angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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                Ahh, fair enough. I’m guessing that was a response to my joke

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                • A acosmichippo@lemmy.world

                  why are we comparing a game 5 years ago to one released today? hardware is much more capable now.

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                  paraphrand
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                  #47

                  Eh, I guess it is. But it also isn’t. We have stagnated a bit in the rasterization and VRAM departments when you talk about affordable entry level cards that most people buy.

                  And the PlayStation 5 has not changed since it launched…

                  Sure, newer cards have Ray Tracing stuff and new video encoder pipelines and some other things. But when you look at classic rasterization, and look at xx60 and xx70 class cards, it’s not the sort of leaps we use to have. Node shrinks are not what they use to be.

                  A 3060 is as fast as a 2070 super. Just as an example I have first hand experience with. There use to be much larger performance gaps between generations.

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                  • banazir@lemmy.mlB banazir@lemmy.ml

                    Seems like the kind of guy I’d want in charge of my company. “Don’t buy my stuff” is some next level 4D marketing.

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                    paraphrand
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                    He probally knows only a certain percentage of his audience will ever hear about this.

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                    • passepartout@feddit.orgP passepartout@feddit.org

                      Can someone find an excuse for how this behaviour is not just extremely short sighted / plain stupid? Never heard of the guy before, but he seems to behave like a petty little child throwing a tantrum for something that is obviously his or some of his near colleagues fault. Comparable level of stupidity to “Do you guys not have phones?” lol.

                      I think they would be better of by just ignoring or at least appeasing the crowd with something.

                      Edit: I read into some of his key moments as a person and comments he made on the topic. Yikes. Maybe he is trying to appeal to edgy kids so they nag their parents to buy better hardware. Maybe his brain got quadruple-A-fried over the years. But then again, maybe he is just another CEO asshole and has always been lol. It’s a shame, Borderlands 1 and 2 were great games back then. Just let a good game rest in peace, there is no need and no sense in milking every last drop out of every successful series. /rant

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                      Pika
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                      I hadent heard of him until BL4 was released, but man does he seem like a real big piece of work lol

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                        callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                        CRASH! SLAMMED! POPPED!

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                        • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

                          Ahh, fair enough. I’m guessing that was a response to my joke

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                          notkyloren@lemmy.zip
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                          I think it was just as much of a joke-y response. Kind of like saying, “who the hell are you, anyway?”

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                            njm1314@lemmy.world
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                            Man I don’t know how the board of directors is going to feel about the CEO telling people to refund their game. That seems like it would be on the list of things you don’t want your CEO telling people.

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                            • B bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world

                              He’s right. Refund it and don’t bother supporting him again. Simple!

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                              huquad@lemmy.ml
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                              I disagree. Don’t buy it to begin with lol

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                              • N njm1314@lemmy.world

                                Man I don’t know how the board of directors is going to feel about the CEO telling people to refund their game. That seems like it would be on the list of things you don’t want your CEO telling people.

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                                big_slap@lemmy.world
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                                it got the community manager for helldivers 2 fired, so… 🍿

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                                • UlrichU Ulrich

                                  I think they would be better of by just ignoring

                                  I mean the best thing they could do is to acknowledge that the game could use some optimization and promise to continue working on it. Even if they have no intention of doing so. But that might get them in trouble with Nvidia since they slapped an “Nvidia optimized” badge on it.

                                  The worst thing they could do is say “buy a better PC”.

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                                  zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Exactly, like what CDPR did with Cyberpunk - own up to the fact that it was shit on release, then take the time to fix it and update it. People flipped nearly overnight from having a negative opinion of the game to a positive one when they released the working version of the game (plus a really solid DLC, which probably helped too).

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                                  • paraphrandP paraphrand

                                    Eh, I guess it is. But it also isn’t. We have stagnated a bit in the rasterization and VRAM departments when you talk about affordable entry level cards that most people buy.

                                    And the PlayStation 5 has not changed since it launched…

                                    Sure, newer cards have Ray Tracing stuff and new video encoder pipelines and some other things. But when you look at classic rasterization, and look at xx60 and xx70 class cards, it’s not the sort of leaps we use to have. Node shrinks are not what they use to be.

                                    A 3060 is as fast as a 2070 super. Just as an example I have first hand experience with. There use to be much larger performance gaps between generations.

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                                    zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                                    You shouldn’t need leaps in hardware to render a highly stylized cell shaded video game in the year 2025.

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                                    • Z zalgotext@sh.itjust.works

                                      Exactly, like what CDPR did with Cyberpunk - own up to the fact that it was shit on release, then take the time to fix it and update it. People flipped nearly overnight from having a negative opinion of the game to a positive one when they released the working version of the game (plus a really solid DLC, which probably helped too).

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                                      Ulrich
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                                      I still think it’s fucked up that CDPR and so many others have a “release it now, fix it later” mentality, but yes, at least they owned it.

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                                        inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                                        Dude is a never ending source of stupidity.

                                        So it’s been reported that the PS 5 suffers from performance issues, especially during long play periods due to being perfectly optimized and this is his latest response:

                                        “Known issue of perf dropping on PS5 pro after several hours of continuous play,” he said. “Workaround until we patch: Quit game and restart. Sorry for the friction!”

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                                          morphballganon@lemmy.world
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                                          Hey board of directors! Make me your new CEO and I will fix this problem!

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