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Borderlands 4 boss tells players "please get a refund from Steam if you aren't happy" as Randy Pitchford continues his very public crashout over the FPS's performance woes

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  • A acosmichippo@lemmy.world

    why are we comparing a game 5 years ago to one released today? hardware is much more capable now.

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    #47

    Eh, I guess it is. But it also isn’t. We have stagnated a bit in the rasterization and VRAM departments when you talk about affordable entry level cards that most people buy.

    And the PlayStation 5 has not changed since it launched…

    Sure, newer cards have Ray Tracing stuff and new video encoder pipelines and some other things. But when you look at classic rasterization, and look at xx60 and xx70 class cards, it’s not the sort of leaps we use to have. Node shrinks are not what they use to be.

    A 3060 is as fast as a 2070 super. Just as an example I have first hand experience with. There use to be much larger performance gaps between generations.

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    • banazir@lemmy.mlB banazir@lemmy.ml

      Seems like the kind of guy I’d want in charge of my company. “Don’t buy my stuff” is some next level 4D marketing.

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      He probally knows only a certain percentage of his audience will ever hear about this.

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      • passepartout@feddit.orgP passepartout@feddit.org

        Can someone find an excuse for how this behaviour is not just extremely short sighted / plain stupid? Never heard of the guy before, but he seems to behave like a petty little child throwing a tantrum for something that is obviously his or some of his near colleagues fault. Comparable level of stupidity to “Do you guys not have phones?” lol.

        I think they would be better of by just ignoring or at least appeasing the crowd with something.

        Edit: I read into some of his key moments as a person and comments he made on the topic. Yikes. Maybe he is trying to appeal to edgy kids so they nag their parents to buy better hardware. Maybe his brain got quadruple-A-fried over the years. But then again, maybe he is just another CEO asshole and has always been lol. It’s a shame, Borderlands 1 and 2 were great games back then. Just let a good game rest in peace, there is no need and no sense in milking every last drop out of every successful series. /rant

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        I hadent heard of him until BL4 was released, but man does he seem like a real big piece of work lol

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          callmeanai@lemmy.world
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          CRASH! SLAMMED! POPPED!

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          • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

            Ahh, fair enough. I’m guessing that was a response to my joke

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            notkyloren@lemmy.zip
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            I think it was just as much of a joke-y response. Kind of like saying, “who the hell are you, anyway?”

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              njm1314@lemmy.world
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              Man I don’t know how the board of directors is going to feel about the CEO telling people to refund their game. That seems like it would be on the list of things you don’t want your CEO telling people.

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              • B bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world

                He’s right. Refund it and don’t bother supporting him again. Simple!

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                huquad@lemmy.ml
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                #53

                I disagree. Don’t buy it to begin with lol

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                • N njm1314@lemmy.world

                  Man I don’t know how the board of directors is going to feel about the CEO telling people to refund their game. That seems like it would be on the list of things you don’t want your CEO telling people.

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                  big_slap@lemmy.world
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                  it got the community manager for helldivers 2 fired, so… 🍿

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                  • UlrichU Ulrich

                    I think they would be better of by just ignoring

                    I mean the best thing they could do is to acknowledge that the game could use some optimization and promise to continue working on it. Even if they have no intention of doing so. But that might get them in trouble with Nvidia since they slapped an “Nvidia optimized” badge on it.

                    The worst thing they could do is say “buy a better PC”.

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                    zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                    Exactly, like what CDPR did with Cyberpunk - own up to the fact that it was shit on release, then take the time to fix it and update it. People flipped nearly overnight from having a negative opinion of the game to a positive one when they released the working version of the game (plus a really solid DLC, which probably helped too).

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                    • paraphrandP paraphrand

                      Eh, I guess it is. But it also isn’t. We have stagnated a bit in the rasterization and VRAM departments when you talk about affordable entry level cards that most people buy.

                      And the PlayStation 5 has not changed since it launched…

                      Sure, newer cards have Ray Tracing stuff and new video encoder pipelines and some other things. But when you look at classic rasterization, and look at xx60 and xx70 class cards, it’s not the sort of leaps we use to have. Node shrinks are not what they use to be.

                      A 3060 is as fast as a 2070 super. Just as an example I have first hand experience with. There use to be much larger performance gaps between generations.

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                      zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                      You shouldn’t need leaps in hardware to render a highly stylized cell shaded video game in the year 2025.

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                      • Z zalgotext@sh.itjust.works

                        Exactly, like what CDPR did with Cyberpunk - own up to the fact that it was shit on release, then take the time to fix it and update it. People flipped nearly overnight from having a negative opinion of the game to a positive one when they released the working version of the game (plus a really solid DLC, which probably helped too).

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                        I still think it’s fucked up that CDPR and so many others have a “release it now, fix it later” mentality, but yes, at least they owned it.

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                          inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                          Dude is a never ending source of stupidity.

                          So it’s been reported that the PS 5 suffers from performance issues, especially during long play periods due to being perfectly optimized and this is his latest response:

                          “Known issue of perf dropping on PS5 pro after several hours of continuous play,” he said. “Workaround until we patch: Quit game and restart. Sorry for the friction!”

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                            morphballganon@lemmy.world
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                            Hey board of directors! Make me your new CEO and I will fix this problem!

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                              degenerationip@lemmy.world
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                              Damn, that all is Comedy and insanely ridiculous.

                              People wanted this Game so Bad. They fucked up a bit … and the CEO goes banana. What a sad ending to this

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                              • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

                                Dude is a never ending source of stupidity.

                                So it’s been reported that the PS 5 suffers from performance issues, especially during long play periods due to being perfectly optimized and this is his latest response:

                                “Known issue of perf dropping on PS5 pro after several hours of continuous play,” he said. “Workaround until we patch: Quit game and restart. Sorry for the friction!”

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                                zahille7@lemmy.world
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                                I mean, he’s an airheaded out-of-touch fellow-kids piece of shit, but he’s not entirely wrong about restarting a game if it starts getting fucky after several hours of continuous play.

                                Also, I’d suggest to just about anyone that they should probably at least get up and walk around, maybe get some fresh air, if you’re gonna be gaming all day. Your devices need breaks too.

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                                • Z zahille7@lemmy.world

                                  I mean, he’s an airheaded out-of-touch fellow-kids piece of shit, but he’s not entirely wrong about restarting a game if it starts getting fucky after several hours of continuous play.

                                  Also, I’d suggest to just about anyone that they should probably at least get up and walk around, maybe get some fresh air, if you’re gonna be gaming all day. Your devices need breaks too.

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                                  treesquid@lemmy.world
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                                  He’s not wrong, but a game you have to do that to isn’t made very well.

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                                    fizz@lemmy.nz
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                                    Borderlands really didnt deserve another chance after the shit games theyve released but it seems people fell for.the marketing and gave it one anyway. Now the same thing is happening the game is shit and was sold at a ridiculous price and while you’re sitting there trying to scrap together some enjoyment youve got this asshole Randy hitting headlines daily.

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                                    • Z zalgotext@sh.itjust.works

                                      You shouldn’t need leaps in hardware to render a highly stylized cell shaded video game in the year 2025.

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                                      #64

                                      Yeah, but it’s not just a toon shader/cel shaded shader.

                                      I’ve seen footage, this game has full (highly stylized) PBR and all sorts of fancy lighting along with the cell shaded look. Reducing it all to “cell shading” isn’t the whole story.

                                      Hi-Fi Rush is much closer to classic Borderlands than BL4 is.

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                                      • paraphrandP paraphrand

                                        Yeah, but it’s not just a toon shader/cel shaded shader.

                                        I’ve seen footage, this game has full (highly stylized) PBR and all sorts of fancy lighting along with the cell shaded look. Reducing it all to “cell shading” isn’t the whole story.

                                        Hi-Fi Rush is much closer to classic Borderlands than BL4 is.

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                                        zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Right, I’ve seen the footage too, and I don’t think I’d recognize it as a Borderlands game if the name wasn’t included in the ads. I’m struggling to understand why they chose to go that route, rather than sticking to the beloved, iconic, performant art style of the other games in the series.

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                                        • B bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world

                                          He’s right. Refund it and don’t bother supporting him again. Simple!

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                                          deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Exactly. I don’t get why people even cares about what this dude is saying. Dont like the game? Refund it ffs.

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