Which stage are you at?
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I’m gonna put this out there: If you can do Endeavour or Manjaro, you can do Arch, and Arch is in no way less stable than Tumbleweed. All you need to do is to pick btrfs and enable snapshots and then never use them.
Isn’t Endeavour just easy install arch?
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Isn’t Endeavour just easy install arch?
Manjaro too, but with even more interference
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I went slackware to debian and am now at ubuntu. Give me a reason to waste my time with any of the others and I might. It wont be arch though. If want something like arch I might as well go back to slackware.
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Fedora fucked up my PC way more times in a year than Gentoo did in 3.
I’m not leaving Gentoo.
I’ve updated fedora releases for like 10 years with zero issues, even went from one laptop to the other and dd’d three times to new SSDs without reinstalling.
I think it may be you who fucked up your PC.
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I went slackware to debian and am now at ubuntu. Give me a reason to waste my time with any of the others and I might. It wont be arch though. If want something like arch I might as well go back to slackware.
I fucking love Ubuntu. Have been on it for about 5 years now. It just works AND doesn’t spy or advertise. Nobody has ever been able to convince me it gets better than that. I don’t need stuff to be difficult to prove to myself I’m smart.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I did my first ever Linux install on a new build last year. I chose Mint, and the process was very smooth with only a few minor bumps getting up to date drivers for my newish AMD GPU. Since then I’ve grown increasingly annoyed by how limited GNOME applications are in general while also gaining increasing respect for the amount of functionality packed into KDE applications. So I’ve been shopping around for a KDE distribution. Fedora and openSUSE keep coming up, and I think I’ll be trying openSUSE soon. So I guess I’ll be skipping from the bottom left all the way to the top right.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
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I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
So you’re saying the graph maker is in the lower quartile?
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I’ve been using linux off and on for almost 20 years, though only did a full transition to linux for everything about two years ago. I use debian for the servers in my homelab and Fedora on all my other computers.
Something tells me this chart is based on an external assessment of competence/confidence not a self-assessment, because according to the chart I should be a guru, but in actuality I know nothing.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Bazzite/bluefin so Fedora silverblue
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Probably the slope of enlightment.
I do still have Gentoo installed. Planned to daily drive Gentoo, and use Bazzite for gaming on the weekends, but I’m switching back to Gentoo less and less now a days, and just daily driving Bazzite now.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Started at low for 6 months , then I travelled to the valley of despair.
I lost my mind and stayed there for a long time. 1 year? 3 years? who are you? who am i? (send help plz)
A traveller names Fedora rescued me. Now I am further down on that curve: Fedora silverblue.
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Right? I need the OS to work, I don’t need to know all the “power user” stuff. If someone is into knowing that stuff, cool, great, enjoy, but it’s not something I’m interested in or have a use for. I use my computer to get things done.
Mint also BTW.
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I’ve updated fedora releases for like 10 years with zero issues, even went from one laptop to the other and dd’d three times to new SSDs without reinstalling.
I think it may be you who fucked up your PC.
It was nvidia drivers mostly.
And it was 12 years ago.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Where nixos?
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I’m at the Kali Linux peak but at least I’m smart enough to know that I don’t have the capability to do the social engineering aspect so I’m just gonna backtrack to Ubuntu and tie myself to the terminal and actually learn Linux.
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Where nixos?
between Gentoo and Arch, but so far down the y-axis it clipped off the chart.
t. masochistic NixOS user
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!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org is leaking.
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I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
There’s a thing across Africa called “joking cousins.” Unlike genuine bad-blood tension between different ethnic groups that can often exist, it’s a jovial sibling rivalry style of thing. I’ve always seen the distro thing a bit like that. It gets tiring, but it’s sort of hard-coded into human nature to joke about slight differences when we’re all in the same tribe.
Though, this graph is silly for the reasons you mention - I think that might be intentional as part of the joke. It’s stupid, so clearly OP is daily driving Kali and hacked the central database to add the distro logos. I dunno, maybe I’m explaining it away too easily.
