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  • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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    ayane_m
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    I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.

    And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.

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    • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

      Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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      adambomb@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I did my first ever Linux install on a new build last year. I chose Mint, and the process was very smooth with only a few minor bumps getting up to date drivers for my newish AMD GPU. Since then I’ve grown increasingly annoyed by how limited GNOME applications are in general while also gaining increasing respect for the amount of functionality packed into KDE applications. So I’ve been shopping around for a KDE distribution. Fedora and openSUSE keep coming up, and I think I’ll be trying openSUSE soon. So I guess I’ll be skipping from the bottom left all the way to the top right.

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      • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

        Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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        whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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        • ayane_mA ayane_m

          I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.

          And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.

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          untorquer@lemmy.world
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          So you’re saying the graph maker is in the lower quartile?

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          • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

            Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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            crazylikegollum@lemmy.world
            wrote last edited by
            #30

            I’ve been using linux off and on for almost 20 years, though only did a full transition to linux for everything about two years ago. I use debian for the servers in my homelab and Fedora on all my other computers.

            Something tells me this chart is based on an external assessment of competence/confidence not a self-assessment, because according to the chart I should be a guru, but in actuality I know nothing.

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            • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

              Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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              randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              wrote last edited by
              #31

              Bazzite/bluefin so Fedora silverblue 😂

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              • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                midsizedsedan@lemmy.world
                wrote last edited by
                #32

                Probably the slope of enlightment.

                I do still have Gentoo installed. Planned to daily drive Gentoo, and use Bazzite for gaming on the weekends, but I’m switching back to Gentoo less and less now a days, and just daily driving Bazzite now.

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                • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                  Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                  mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
                  wrote last edited by
                  #33

                  Started at low for 6 months , then I travelled to the valley of despair.

                  I lost my mind and stayed there for a long time. 1 year? 3 years? who are you? who am i? (send help plz)

                  A traveller names Fedora rescued me. Now I am further down on that curve: Fedora silverblue.

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                  • S Sidhean

                    I know nothing, and I’m keeping it that way

                    My system of choice is Mint, btw

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                    oppy1984@lemdro.id
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                    #34

                    Right? I need the OS to work, I don’t need to know all the “power user” stuff. If someone is into knowing that stuff, cool, great, enjoy, but it’s not something I’m interested in or have a use for. I use my computer to get things done.

                    Mint also BTW.

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                    • D damage@feddit.it

                      I’ve updated fedora releases for like 10 years with zero issues, even went from one laptop to the other and dd’d three times to new SSDs without reinstalling.

                      I think it may be you who fucked up your PC.

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                      msage@programming.dev
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                      #35

                      It was nvidia drivers mostly.

                      And it was 12 years ago.

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                      • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                        Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                        hehehe@lemmy.world
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                        #36

                        Where nixos?

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                        • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                          Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                          devedeset@lemmy.zip
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                          I’m at the Kali Linux peak but at least I’m smart enough to know that I don’t have the capability to do the social engineering aspect so I’m just gonna backtrack to Ubuntu and tie myself to the terminal and actually learn Linux.

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                          • H hehehe@lemmy.world

                            Where nixos?

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                            missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            #38

                            between Gentoo and Arch, but so far down the y-axis it clipped off the chart.

                            t. masochistic NixOS user

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                            • SunocS Sunoc

                              FIFY

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                              missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de
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                              #39

                              !unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org is leaking.

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                              • ayane_mA ayane_m

                                I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the “Dunning-Kruger effect”. Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn’t posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.

                                And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don’t shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it’s a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.

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                                hansolo@lemmy.today
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                                #40

                                There’s a thing across Africa called “joking cousins.” Unlike genuine bad-blood tension between different ethnic groups that can often exist, it’s a jovial sibling rivalry style of thing. I’ve always seen the distro thing a bit like that. It gets tiring, but it’s sort of hard-coded into human nature to joke about slight differences when we’re all in the same tribe.

                                Though, this graph is silly for the reasons you mention - I think that might be intentional as part of the joke. It’s stupid, so clearly OP is daily driving Kali and hacked the central database to add the distro logos. I dunno, maybe I’m explaining it away too easily.

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                                • M msage@programming.dev

                                  It was nvidia drivers mostly.

                                  And it was 12 years ago.

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                                  damage@feddit.it
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                                  Yeah I had lots of problems with Winmodems on Slackware 20 years ago, definitely a bad distro too!

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                                  • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                                    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                                    hanrahan
                                    wrote last edited by hanrahan@piefed.social
                                    #42

                                    Mint… 🙂

                                    I had thought of going to Fedora next but I ask myself why !

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                                    • C crazylikegollum@lemmy.world

                                      I’ve been using linux off and on for almost 20 years, though only did a full transition to linux for everything about two years ago. I use debian for the servers in my homelab and Fedora on all my other computers.

                                      Something tells me this chart is based on an external assessment of competence/confidence not a self-assessment, because according to the chart I should be a guru, but in actuality I know nothing.

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                                      ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #43

                                      I’m great at using Linux reading the Arch wiki

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                                      • D devedeset@lemmy.zip

                                        I’m at the Kali Linux peak but at least I’m smart enough to know that I don’t have the capability to do the social engineering aspect so I’m just gonna backtrack to Ubuntu and tie myself to the terminal and actually learn Linux.

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                                        chaoticneutralczech@feddit.org
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #44

                                        The “return to Ubuntu” logo is Feren OS. Which distro do you choose for your return to Ubuntu?

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                                        • mintyfresh@lemmy.worldM mintyfresh@lemmy.world

                                          I use mint on my PC and love it! However I’m now the ipad kid of Linux. It never breaks, I never have to learn anything. Just getting it up and running is the zenith of my knowledge and ability.

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                                          hanrahan
                                          wrote last edited by hanrahan@piefed.social
                                          #45

                                          Same here.

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