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"Ours is a world where some deaths are mourned publicly and others are never acknowledged."~ Garrett Bucks#CharlieKirk #guns #violence /1https://thewhitepages.net/p/how-do-you-respond-when-a-famous

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    "Fascists do civil violence better than civic democrats. It’s a foundational element of their political philosophy. It’s the verdict of logic and history."

    ~ Josh Marshall

    #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
    /12

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-death-of-charlie-kirk

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    "Things have changed and it’s not hard to pinpoint the moment when the normalization of political violence re-emerged among our political elites. To pretend otherwise would be to hide our heads in the sand—to deny the plain political reality of the moment."

    ~ Jonathan V. Last

    #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
    /13

    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk

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      "Things have changed and it’s not hard to pinpoint the moment when the normalization of political violence re-emerged among our political elites. To pretend otherwise would be to hide our heads in the sand—to deny the plain political reality of the moment."

      ~ Jonathan V. Last

      #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
      /13

      https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk

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      "[Kirk's murder is] also a difficult thing to process for me personally, coming less than two weeks after a mass shooting at my kids’ school (and a couple months after the assassination of Melissa Hortman, who I knew a bit personally, not far from where I live). Whether I’m reflecting on my own life or the state of American society more broadly, it feels like the external world is coming unglued."

      ~ Aaron Rupar

      #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
      /14

      https://www.publicnotice.co/p/reflections-on-charlie-kirks-assassination

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      • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

        "[Kirk's murder is] also a difficult thing to process for me personally, coming less than two weeks after a mass shooting at my kids’ school (and a couple months after the assassination of Melissa Hortman, who I knew a bit personally, not far from where I live). Whether I’m reflecting on my own life or the state of American society more broadly, it feels like the external world is coming unglued."

        ~ Aaron Rupar

        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
        /14

        https://www.publicnotice.co/p/reflections-on-charlie-kirks-assassination

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        "Shootings that were unthinkable when I was growing up in the 1990s are no longer so in this time of great destabilization. Yesterday’s violence will make it worse before it gets better.

        But for things to get better, we need a future where Americans can partake in politics without fear of having their homes invaded or getting shot while speaking in public. That will require defeating the fascist movement that Kirk devoted his professional life to promoting."

        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
        /15

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        • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

          "Shootings that were unthinkable when I was growing up in the 1990s are no longer so in this time of great destabilization. Yesterday’s violence will make it worse before it gets better.

          But for things to get better, we need a future where Americans can partake in politics without fear of having their homes invaded or getting shot while speaking in public. That will require defeating the fascist movement that Kirk devoted his professional life to promoting."

          #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
          /15

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          "And that means doing the distressingly difficult work of persuading Americans to reject demagogues who relentlessly hunt for scapegoats."

          #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
          /16

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          • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

            "And that means doing the distressingly difficult work of persuading Americans to reject demagogues who relentlessly hunt for scapegoats."

            #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
            /16

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            "• The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.

            • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter."

            ~ Mehdi Hasan

            #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
            /17

            https://zeteo.com/p/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence

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            • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

              "• The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.

              • The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter."

              ~ Mehdi Hasan

              #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
              /17

              https://zeteo.com/p/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence

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              "• The man convicted of orchestrating a series of hootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

              • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

              • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters."

              #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
              /18

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              • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

                "• The man convicted of orchestrating a series of hootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

                • The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

                • The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters."

                #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
                /18

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                "• The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.

                • The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.

                • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter."

                #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
                /19

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                • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

                  "• The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.

                  • The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.

                  • The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter."

                  #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
                  /19

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                  "• The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.

                  There is no equivalent or even similar list of Obama or Biden supporters who have carried out murders, attempted murders, or violent attacks against Republicans or conservatives in recent years."

                  #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
                  /20

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                  • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

                    "• The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.

                    There is no equivalent or even similar list of Obama or Biden supporters who have carried out murders, attempted murders, or violent attacks against Republicans or conservatives in recent years."

                    #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence #fascism
                    /20

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                    Robert B. Hubbell quotes Amy Rock,

                    "Utah is the only state to have a statute specifically naming public colleges and universities as public entities that do not have the authority to ban concealed carry."

                    ~ Robert B. Hubbell

                    #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #Utah
                    /21

                    https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/political-violence-has-no-place-in

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                    • William Lindsey :toad:W William Lindsey :toad:

                      Robert B. Hubbell quotes Amy Rock,

                      "Utah is the only state to have a statute specifically naming public colleges and universities as public entities that do not have the authority to ban concealed carry."

                      ~ Robert B. Hubbell

                      #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #Utah
                      /21

                      https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/political-violence-has-no-place-in

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                      Hubbell adds:

                      "Although Utah prohibits public colleges and universities from banning real firearms on campus, Utah prohibits the presence of simulated weapons on campus, 'such as toys, props, or weapons that do not work, and [which] cannot be used as decoration in university housing.'

                      In other words, an undergraduate in Utah can keep a loaded handgun on his desk in the classroom but cannot use a squirt gun as a frat party decoration."

                      #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #Utah
                      /22

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                        Hubbell adds:

                        "Although Utah prohibits public colleges and universities from banning real firearms on campus, Utah prohibits the presence of simulated weapons on campus, 'such as toys, props, or weapons that do not work, and [which] cannot be used as decoration in university housing.'

                        In other words, an undergraduate in Utah can keep a loaded handgun on his desk in the classroom but cannot use a squirt gun as a frat party decoration."

                        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #Utah
                        /22

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                        "It’s a tragic irony that Kirk, who has long defended the 2nd Amendment and criticized gun control as a means of curbing mass shootings, was killed in such a manner. There was another shooting today nearby in a Denver, Colorado, high school, which left three people injured.

                        This is America, where there are more guns than people."

                        ~ Wajahat Ali

                        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                        /23

                        https://thelefthook.substack.com/p/conservative-activist-and-gun-rights-c91

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                          "It’s a tragic irony that Kirk, who has long defended the 2nd Amendment and criticized gun control as a means of curbing mass shootings, was killed in such a manner. There was another shooting today nearby in a Denver, Colorado, high school, which left three people injured.

                          This is America, where there are more guns than people."

                          ~ Wajahat Ali

                          #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                          /23

                          https://thelefthook.substack.com/p/conservative-activist-and-gun-rights-c91

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                          "In the wake of a school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, in 2023, Kirk said the cost of 'some gun deaths' is 'unfortunately' worth it in order to preserve Second Amendment rights, calling it a 'prudent deal.'”

                          ~ Team Zeteo

                          #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                          /24

                          https://zeteo.com/p/breaking-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at

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                            "In the wake of a school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, in 2023, Kirk said the cost of 'some gun deaths' is 'unfortunately' worth it in order to preserve Second Amendment rights, calling it a 'prudent deal.'”

                            ~ Team Zeteo

                            #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                            /24

                            https://zeteo.com/p/breaking-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at

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                            "I think it's worth [it] to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

                            ~ Charlie Kirk per Walter Einenkel

                            #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                            /25

                            https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/10/2342819/-Trump-ally-Charlie-Kirk-s-shooting-death-prompts-all-kinds-of-reactions

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                              "I think it's worth [it] to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

                              ~ Charlie Kirk per Walter Einenkel

                              #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                              /25

                              https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/10/2342819/-Trump-ally-Charlie-Kirk-s-shooting-death-prompts-all-kinds-of-reactions

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                              “The problem with allowing guns everywhere is that no one is safe anywhere.”

                              ~ Shannon Watts of Moms Demand Action

                              #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                              /26

                              https://www.commondreams.org/news/charlie-kirk

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                                “The problem with allowing guns everywhere is that no one is safe anywhere.”

                                ~ Shannon Watts of Moms Demand Action

                                #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                                /26

                                https://www.commondreams.org/news/charlie-kirk

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                                "The FBI has mismanaged and botched this whole thing from the start. FBI Director Kash Patel posted that the suspect was in custody. It turns out, they racially profiled an Arab Charlie Kirk supporter who had nothing to do with the shooting.

                                Earlier, the FBI claimed they found another suspect who happened to be a mentally ill man known for disrupting political events and gatherings in Utah."

                                ~ Ben Meiselas

                                #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                /27

                                https://www.meidasplus.com/p/thoughts-on-assassination

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                                  "The FBI has mismanaged and botched this whole thing from the start. FBI Director Kash Patel posted that the suspect was in custody. It turns out, they racially profiled an Arab Charlie Kirk supporter who had nothing to do with the shooting.

                                  Earlier, the FBI claimed they found another suspect who happened to be a mentally ill man known for disrupting political events and gatherings in Utah."

                                  ~ Ben Meiselas

                                  #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                  /27

                                  https://www.meidasplus.com/p/thoughts-on-assassination

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                                  "The FBI was then forced to issue a retraction, admitting it doesn’t have the suspect in custody as of this writing. ...

                                  The head of the Utah FBI Field Office was a well-respected career agent named Mehtab Sayed, a Pakistani woman. She was fired a few weeks ago because she was Pakistani and a woman. This is in addition to all the firings of most senior FBI officials as Trump exacts revenge and retribution on the FBI."

                                  #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                  /28

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                                    "The FBI was then forced to issue a retraction, admitting it doesn’t have the suspect in custody as of this writing. ...

                                    The head of the Utah FBI Field Office was a well-respected career agent named Mehtab Sayed, a Pakistani woman. She was fired a few weeks ago because she was Pakistani and a woman. This is in addition to all the firings of most senior FBI officials as Trump exacts revenge and retribution on the FBI."

                                    #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                    /28

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                                    "Also, Trump has placed a 22-year-old intern with zero experience, named Thomas Fugate III, to lead the domestic threat assessment division within the FBI. He’s not the person you want in that position."

                                    #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                    /29

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                                      "Also, Trump has placed a 22-year-old intern with zero experience, named Thomas Fugate III, to lead the domestic threat assessment division within the FBI. He’s not the person you want in that position."

                                      #CharlieKirk #guns #violence #FBI
                                      /29

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                                      "The vvil that men do lives after them."

                                      ~ Doktor Zoom

                                      #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
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                                      https://www.wonkette.com/p/the-evil-that-men-do-lives-after

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                                        "The vvil that men do lives after them."

                                        ~ Doktor Zoom

                                        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
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                                        https://www.wonkette.com/p/the-evil-that-men-do-lives-after

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                                        "Far-right influencers and violent extremists are posting identifying details about people they view as celebrating or glorifying the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. The campaign has been swift and widespread and has already led to at least one person losing their job and others receiving death threats."

                                        ~ David Gilbert

                                        #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                                        /31

                                        https://www.wired.com/story/right-wing-activists-are-targeting-people-for-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/

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                                          "Far-right influencers and violent extremists are posting identifying details about people they view as celebrating or glorifying the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. The campaign has been swift and widespread and has already led to at least one person losing their job and others receiving death threats."

                                          ~ David Gilbert

                                          #CharlieKirk #guns #violence
                                          /31

                                          https://www.wired.com/story/right-wing-activists-are-targeting-people-for-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/

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                                          "Trump is not a man to seek calm. In terms of political violence, he’s an arsonist, not a firefighter. He mocked the assault on Paul Pelosi and joked about 'Second Amendment people' going after Hillary Clinton. He has hailed the January 6 rioters as heroes."

                                          ~ Jeet Heer

                                          #CharlieKirk #Trump #guns #violence
                                          /32

                                          https://www.thenation.com/article/society/charlie-kirk-shooting-assassination-analysis/

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