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I wonder if this is actually Carney’s play.

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  • Paul Turnbull 🇨🇦C This user is from outside of this forum
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    I wonder if this is actually Carney’s play. To offer a pipeline but only if the private sector steps up to build it while knowing full well no one will step up to build it. That gives him the ability to appease the Alberta government but still avoid a pipeline. https://flipboard.com/@cbcnews/top-stories-01r3k2ttz/-/a-1lQGtFsjRfers1oh0wonUA%3Aa%3A107108217-%2F0

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      I wonder if this is actually Carney’s play. To offer a pipeline but only if the private sector steps up to build it while knowing full well no one will step up to build it. That gives him the ability to appease the Alberta government but still avoid a pipeline. https://flipboard.com/@cbcnews/top-stories-01r3k2ttz/-/a-1lQGtFsjRfers1oh0wonUA%3Aa%3A107108217-%2F0

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      @Chigaze
      That’s been Eby’s game.

      I want to believe, but I feel like at some point Carney’s going to pull some ‘public-private-partnership’ rabbit out of his hat.

      I’m already seeing the news being seeded with stories about how Europe wants our oil & gas to divest itself from Russia.

      This will be sold to us as Canada ‘doing its part’.

      #CanPoli #FossilFools

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        @Chigaze
        That’s been Eby’s game.

        I want to believe, but I feel like at some point Carney’s going to pull some ‘public-private-partnership’ rabbit out of his hat.

        I’m already seeing the news being seeded with stories about how Europe wants our oil & gas to divest itself from Russia.

        This will be sold to us as Canada ‘doing its part’.

        #CanPoli #FossilFools

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        @Crispius A PPP still requires a willing a private company. There is a lot of economic analysis that says by the time we build something the demand will be gone. Even as a PPP there may be little incentive for private company to get involved.

        That said I wouldn’t be surprised either way at this point. 😕

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          @Chigaze
          That’s been Eby’s game.

          I want to believe, but I feel like at some point Carney’s going to pull some ‘public-private-partnership’ rabbit out of his hat.

          I’m already seeing the news being seeded with stories about how Europe wants our oil & gas to divest itself from Russia.

          This will be sold to us as Canada ‘doing its part’.

          #CanPoli #FossilFools

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          @Crispius

          Let the Europeans fund it. If they plan to continue to use oil and gas it might as well be sourced in Canada rather than Russia (though the ships needed to transport it are a significant source of emissions).

          @Chigaze

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            @Crispius A PPP still requires a willing a private company. There is a lot of economic analysis that says by the time we build something the demand will be gone. Even as a PPP there may be little incentive for private company to get involved.

            That said I wouldn’t be surprised either way at this point. 😕

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            @Chigaze
            I think the ‘Building Canada Act’ was intended to soothe potential investors’ nerves and ‘provide certainty’ which would convince them to put up the cash, however I don’t think our Very Smart People™️ understand that the reason investors are hesitant to invest in new new oil & gas infrastructure is that they don’t want to take on the risk of being stuck with a stranded asset when the world moves on from oil & gas.

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            • Paul Turnbull 🇨🇦C Paul Turnbull 🇨🇦

              I wonder if this is actually Carney’s play. To offer a pipeline but only if the private sector steps up to build it while knowing full well no one will step up to build it. That gives him the ability to appease the Alberta government but still avoid a pipeline. https://flipboard.com/@cbcnews/top-stories-01r3k2ttz/-/a-1lQGtFsjRfers1oh0wonUA%3Aa%3A107108217-%2F0

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              @Chigaze I thought TC Energy said they'd do it…with appropriate federal assistance. That's the problem with privatization. I'd like to see that rail line servicing the territories and northern prairies but whose going to own it? I seem to recollect Treaty 8 leaders wanting to build from Fort Mac to Churchill (hydrogen & electrical grid?) but then nothing more.

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