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What’s all well and good? I see no evidence you are listening, and some direct evidence that you are not.

Once again, you are railing against how the English language works, and has always worked.

‘Literally’ means both ‘literally’ and it’s opposite ‘figuratively’. People using ‘literally’ to mean figuratively aren’t wrong to do so. They don’t need to, as you suggest, define their usage of the word when using it. It’s understood. Once you understand a word can be expanded to mean its opposite, and people use it just fine, this expansion of ‘nazi’ should be a breeze.

In the current zeitgeist, it is understood, that in casual settings, ‘nazi’ is used to mean ‘right wing authoritarian’. Get all upset if you wish, there’s a long history of people being upset about time’s effect on language, I’m sure you can remember your grandparents clutching pearls at the slang and short hand you used growing up. You don’t have to like it, English doesn’t care. Keep up, or don’t, up to you. For what it’s worth, I’m one of the few people I know that still say ‘whom’ I type it less and less and I certainly don’t “correct” people who don’t because their lack of usage is correct now.

All you are doing is pettifogging.

I don’t have the slightest clue what concept you are trying to elicit, but regardless you’re taking my words out of context. It’s in bad faith and I’m not the least bit interested. No thank you.

It wasn’t in bad faith.

History has shown that fascists in power are going to do terrible things. It doesn’t matter what you do, or don’t do, they are going to do the terrible things they want to do regardless. They were blaming the left before Kirk’s body hit the floor, they weren’t going to waste this crisis. The left was ‘at fault’ before there even were memes. Facts don’t matter to them, why the fuck would memes?

This idea of “don’t provoke them with mean memes” is the kind of powerless fear that the abusers are trying to instill in you.

History has also shown that there a few ways of dislodging facists when in power. Smooth talking isn’t one of them.

I appreciate you’re not interested ZMonster, I’m not expecting a reply, I imagine I’m blocked. Purely an explaination for anyone reading through the thread.

You know the old adage “you wouldn’t follow your friend of a cliff if he jumped”.

I think i’d rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist.

Just because technology has created micro universes where word change meaning faster than anyone can follow, doesn’t mean they are right.

Or to put it more sarcastically so you have something to think about. I literally don’t care, literally.

So don’t use ‘nazi’ that way, no-one is forcing you.

‘Do you know the saying that movie was cool.’ You know they aren’t saying ‘the movie was a low but not freezing temperature.’

So here’s someone complaining about the use of ‘cool’ and they say ‘I think i’d rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist’.

Just imagine the scenario, some people talking about a film, someone says it’s cool, and here you come charging in with your pedantry. No-one is talking about the film anymore, because you’re arguing about the usage of the word cool. Then you go full sanctimonious and say “I think i’d rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist”. Is that a sufficient mirror for you.

Just because technology has created micro universes where word change meaning faster than anyone can follow, doesn’t mean they are right.

Faster than anyone can follow? I followed it. Everyone in this thread followed it. It only seemed to be you out of the loop. That’s fine, but you didn’t have to expose your ignorance so publicly. You’ll pick up the lingo eventually.

Or to put it more sarcastically so you have something to think about. I literally don’t care, literally.

But you didn’t explain how you were using each version of literally?! Thereby proving your earlier complaint “that it would render words meaningless” incorrect. If nothing else I am glad I could have taught you that much. Maybe if I was able to teach you that people don’t have to spend all their time explaining definitions, I can teach you how silly pedantry is.

But you do care though, you obviously care.

Faster than anyone can follow? I followed it. Everyone in this thread followed it. It only seemed to be you out of the loop. That’s fine, but you didn’t have to expose your ignorance so publicly. You’ll pick up the lingo eventually.

I find it hilarious that being correct is being ignorant. It’s ok that you’re wrong, it’s your right.

But you do care though, you obviously care.

Of course i do, but since it’s not clear from language that I do due to the reasons that I laid out, I understand that you’re confused. See how language is confusing when words change meaning? Oh, the irony.

Someone says that movie was cool. You protest that the movie wasn’t a ‘low but not freezing temperature’. You receive pushback for being a pedant. You:

I find it hilarious that being correct is being ignorant. It’s ok that you’re wrong, it’s your right.

Your last comment made such good progress. You recognised it was your failing to understand the language being spoken. You projected that lack onto everyone else by suggesting no-one could keep up. But you recognised it was a listener’s failure. Why the regression?

Communication is a co-operative tool. It is on the speaker to use language appropriate for the likely listeners true. Like an English speaker going into a rural Japanese restaurant and trying to order in English. The speaker did that, we all understood what was meant by ‘nazi’.

But also it is on the listener to learn the language likely to be spoken. Like an English speaker going into a rural Japanese restaurant and getting mad at everyone because everything is in Japanese. This is you, you are in an online ‘restaurant’ of a sort getting mad at everyone else for not speaking the language you speak, in the way you want to speak it. They aren’t incorrect, just using the appropriate language for the context they are in.

I’ll note that this main character syndrome that everyone else should conform to their way of speaking is common among English speakers.

Of course i do, but since it’s not clear from language that I do due to the reasons that I laid out, I understand that you’re confused. See how language is confusing when words change meaning? Oh, the irony.

It was clear from the context. Notice how I keep making great emphasis on the context in which the words are being used. I was mocking you for a point made you made without thought coming back to bite you.