Bittorrule
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Love the potrait of Linus Torvalds behind Xenia
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India has cheaper subscriptions. The lowest tier, 480p is 170 INR, which is about 3 USD.
If you’re in india then my understanding is that IPTV is the most cost effective option by a large margin. I"ve never lived there but my family is scattered between Bangladesh and india and they all use IPTVs.
but I guess to answer your original question: regional pricing
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Plex & sex
Emby & embrace
Jellyfin & sin
Stream and cream?
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The real question is:
How do people have so much media to fill up those drives?
Followed by: how do people have so much time to watch that media?
Followed by: human driven climate change is real. How can people waste energy just to hoard media that they rarely ever see again?
I understand somehow if you are torrenting and contributing to the sharing ecosystem, but just hoarding?
Q1: They have a knowledge of how to use BitTorrent, or Usenet or somesuch, without being caught.
Q2: They don’t, the point of a library is having things in case you want or need them, or maybe somebody else does.
Q3: I guarantee you it takes less energy and carbon to set up and operate a relatively small local library than it does to operate a giant realtime global streaming enterprise, by probably multiple orders of magnitude.
Fuck, I could do this with a SteamDeck, external drives or something, and run it all on a home solar power / battery system you can get off the shelf.
Have you ever seen, like physically seen, a massive datacenter the size of an auto manufacturing planr, a high rise building that is 50% server racks by floor?
Just how many racks there, how much water and energy is used?
Also: You’re arguing here that feeding evil megacorps is somehow better for the environment, than starving them?
Really?
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afaik (and I might be super wrong) you can have up to 100 machines IN the network, but only 3 connected at any given time in the free plan.
But yes, it’s sick and amazing either way.
Nope, free allows for up to 3 users and 100 connected devices. And if you run it on your router, the entire network only counts as one device. So for instance, you and two of your friends could all join the same tailnet. Their business model is basically the same as WinRAR’s; give it to individual users for free, to get people on board. Then charge corporations to use it at scale, since the individual users already know how to use it.
The only reason I don’t personally use it is because my work WiFi blocks outgoing WireGuard connections. And that’s Tailscale’s biggest weakness in my experience; They tout themselves as a zero-config VPN, but that means you’re not able to config things if you need to. If I were able to flip over to OpenVPN or IKEv2/IPSec instead of WireGuard, I’d be fine. But Tailscale doesn’t have the ability to do that, because it would require configuration.
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You really shouldn’t port forward Jellyfin. Hell, you really shouldn’t port forward anything. A domain is like a dollar per month. Use a reverse proxy with some sort of login gate like Authentik or Authelia.
If you’re only using it for yourself then there are a lot worse things that people do (like downloading apps for websites, using untrusted VPNs, or even just using the web)
Reverse proxy is more advanced and I think someone who needs it wouldn’t be worried about ease of use.
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setting up a small jellyfin server for my family instead of getting 32402398423948 subs to shitty streaming companies was the best thing i did
Just don’t talk about the part where we spend ~$1000 on acquiring 20TB of HDD
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What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?
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How’s the barrier to entry for Jellyfin? I just got done investing in Plex when they started changing their payment model
Dockstarter with jellyfin + sonarr + radarr + qbittorrent + swag is your friend. I actually found jellyfin easier to setup. Don’t have to worry to much that streams are getting transcoded. Setting swag up was some effort though.
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What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?
So one can watch from a phone, tablet, TV etc.
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What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?
You get a cute little user interface to browse through your movies and shows with little posters and information. You also don’t have to use a flash drive and move stuff over if you want to watch from your PlayStation or other device. just a browser is enough.
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The real question is:
How do people have so much media to fill up those drives?
Followed by: how do people have so much time to watch that media?
Followed by: human driven climate change is real. How can people waste energy just to hoard media that they rarely ever see again?
I understand somehow if you are torrenting and contributing to the sharing ecosystem, but just hoarding?
On my own, I can somewhat regularly use 1tb of internet data in a month and I’m not even a data horder. I always keep a tv on in the background (which these days usually means streaming stuff). I also stream music pretty frequently.
Its not at all unrealistic these days for someone over the course of 2+ years to get 20tb of data all in one place. And if thats media that gets accessed frequently (like music) it probably saves bandwidth and energy storing it that way.
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How do people have so much money to buy so much storage?
You don’t need to buy it all at once.
Long-term planning is a pathway to many powers CEOs would call…unnatural.
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I’m using ceph with 100tb of drives and 30tb of nvme, but it’s a bit overkill.
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Dockstarter with jellyfin + sonarr + radarr + qbittorrent + swag is your friend. I actually found jellyfin easier to setup. Don’t have to worry to much that streams are getting transcoded. Setting swag up was some effort though.
I just use jellyfin, what is all of the rest of those things for?
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On my own, I can somewhat regularly use 1tb of internet data in a month and I’m not even a data horder. I always keep a tv on in the background (which these days usually means streaming stuff). I also stream music pretty frequently.
Its not at all unrealistic these days for someone over the course of 2+ years to get 20tb of data all in one place. And if thats media that gets accessed frequently (like music) it probably saves bandwidth and energy storing it that way.
Music we listen to many times but it barely uses any space for today’s standards.
Streaming TV is always something different, so, no point in storing it.
And movies? There may be a few favourites we watch again and even if they were 4K wouldn’t use that much space. 20TB is space enough for 330 4K 2 hour movies! Or 10,000 1080P movies. Let’s say that your job is to watch movies 8 hours a day. That’s 4 movies per day, that’s 500 weeks to watch 10,000 movies. Or 10 years (if you take a two week vacation every year). And that’s without repeating.
Let’s say you have 100 favourite movies that you like to watch on demand on 4 K (really an exaggeration) you only need 6 TB.
Si, my question stands.
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Q1: They have a knowledge of how to use BitTorrent, or Usenet or somesuch, without being caught.
Q2: They don’t, the point of a library is having things in case you want or need them, or maybe somebody else does.
Q3: I guarantee you it takes less energy and carbon to set up and operate a relatively small local library than it does to operate a giant realtime global streaming enterprise, by probably multiple orders of magnitude.
Fuck, I could do this with a SteamDeck, external drives or something, and run it all on a home solar power / battery system you can get off the shelf.
Have you ever seen, like physically seen, a massive datacenter the size of an auto manufacturing planr, a high rise building that is 50% server racks by floor?
Just how many racks there, how much water and energy is used?
Also: You’re arguing here that feeding evil megacorps is somehow better for the environment, than starving them?
Really?
No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.
“Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.
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What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?
If I can just add to what @glinncor@lemmy.world said:
I personally have one so that I don’t have to mess around with plugging in any hdmi cables and moving my laptop from where it’s docked, I can flick on the server and then it can just be accessed on any tv in the house by anyone.
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I just use jellyfin, what is all of the rest of those things for?
All of the *arr apps are for automatic media downloading and organization.
You want all the new seasons of a show?
Just mark that as a ‘monitored’ show in sonarr. When new episodes are released, sonarr uses your torrent indexer to get the torrent or magnet link and sends that to your torrent downloader. Once the download completes, it renames the file with metadata and puts it into the spot where jellyfin/plex is expecting the file to be.It’s an automation stack for media piracy.
SpaceInvaderOne has a bunch of tutorials on how to set things up if you want to dive into the full self-hosting ocean.
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How do people have so much money to buy so much storage?
Used enterprise drives and a SAS controller. Last batch of SAS drives I bought were 16TB for $115 each.
Unraid (and I think ZFS and Ceph as well) supports adding drives 1-by-1 and different sized drives to your array.
You can just buy single drives or spares whenever a sale comes around to keep expanding your storage.