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Just don’t talk about the part where we spend ~$1000 on acquiring 20TB of HDD

What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?

Dockstarter with jellyfin + sonarr + radarr + qbittorrent + swag is your friend. I actually found jellyfin easier to setup. Don’t have to worry to much that streams are getting transcoded. Setting swag up was some effort though.

So one can watch from a phone, tablet, TV etc.

You get a cute little user interface to browse through your movies and shows with little posters and information. You also don’t have to use a flash drive and move stuff over if you want to watch from your PlayStation or other device. just a browser is enough.

On my own, I can somewhat regularly use 1tb of internet data in a month and I’m not even a data horder. I always keep a tv on in the background (which these days usually means streaming stuff). I also stream music pretty frequently.

Its not at all unrealistic these days for someone over the course of 2+ years to get 20tb of data all in one place. And if thats media that gets accessed frequently (like music) it probably saves bandwidth and energy storing it that way.

You don’t need to buy it all at once.

Long-term planning is a pathway to many powers CEOs would call…unnatural.

I’m using ceph with 100tb of drives and 30tb of nvme, but it’s a bit overkill.

I just use jellyfin, what is all of the rest of those things for?

Music we listen to many times but it barely uses any space for today’s standards.

Streaming TV is always something different, so, no point in storing it.

And movies? There may be a few favourites we watch again and even if they were 4K wouldn’t use that much space. 20TB is space enough for 330 4K 2 hour movies! Or 10,000 1080P movies. Let’s say that your job is to watch movies 8 hours a day. That’s 4 movies per day, that’s 500 weeks to watch 10,000 movies. Or 10 years (if you take a two week vacation every year). And that’s without repeating.

Let’s say you have 100 favourite movies that you like to watch on demand on 4 K (really an exaggeration) you only need 6 TB.

Si, my question stands.

No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.

“Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

If I can just add to what @glinncor@lemmy.world said:

I personally have one so that I don’t have to mess around with plugging in any hdmi cables and moving my laptop from where it’s docked, I can flick on the server and then it can just be accessed on any tv in the house by anyone.

All of the *arr apps are for automatic media downloading and organization.

You want all the new seasons of a show?
Just mark that as a ‘monitored’ show in sonarr. When new episodes are released, sonarr uses your torrent indexer to get the torrent or magnet link and sends that to your torrent downloader. Once the download completes, it renames the file with metadata and puts it into the spot where jellyfin/plex is expecting the file to be.

It’s an automation stack for media piracy.

SpaceInvaderOne has a bunch of tutorials on how to set things up if you want to dive into the full self-hosting ocean.

Used enterprise drives and a SAS controller. Last batch of SAS drives I bought were 16TB for $115 each.

Unraid (and I think ZFS and Ceph as well) supports adding drives 1-by-1 and different sized drives to your array.
You can just buy single drives or spares whenever a sale comes around to keep expanding your storage.

If you are saying 330 movies is ‘hoarding’, I don’t know what to tell you.

When I grew up in the 90s, we had almost 50 VHS movies.

Wealthier friends of mine had up to or over 100 or 200.

Now what took a large shelfing unit or cabinet… fits into about the size of a brick.

Also… you are missing that digital data can be essentially instantly copied, duplicated, and shared with others.

You are also entirely discounting the idea that infrastructure could collapse, you are assuming that using it as we do now, will remain as relatively inexpensive as it is now, forever.

I am not so optimistic.

From that standpoint, it is less hoarding, as it is archiving.

I didn’t hear no chill though.

I don’t think there’s a c/datahoarder. But that was exactly what the reddit community was called.

The person you’re arguing with is likely running a private ‘netflix’ instance using Jellyfin or Plex.
It’s not my cuppa, but I think I have every episode of every season of Below Deck, Love Island, and Bachelor/Bachelorette on my instance.

You start running out of space pretty quickly when a dozen people are using it for their daily media consumption.

This is the way. And you can watch from anywhere in the world if you set things up with a VPN.

It depends on the quality you’re looking for. Data hoarders often keep really really high quality files so they can convert it into whatever they want later on.

A 4k remux can range from ~30gb-80gb. That’s ~200 4k movies assuming most are around 50gb.

A 48khz .flac music album is ~500mb. That’s not alot but music makes sense to save locally, plenty of people just keep their music going all the time on shuffle.

Also

Streaming TV is always something different, so, no point in storing it

There is no point not storing it, you’re going to use the data either way, why not keep it? At the end of the day, you can get 20tb of storage for a reasonable amount of money, and typically the people with that kinda storage have accumulated it over the course of several years. You can always decide to get rid of stuff you don’t need if you find yourself low on space.

O woe us, what are we gonna do!