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  • S seadoo@lemmy.world

    I just use jellyfin, what is all of the rest of those things for?

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    CoopaLoopa
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    #75

    All of the *arr apps are for automatic media downloading and organization.

    You want all the new seasons of a show?
    Just mark that as a ‘monitored’ show in sonarr. When new episodes are released, sonarr uses your torrent indexer to get the torrent or magnet link and sends that to your torrent downloader. Once the download completes, it renames the file with metadata and puts it into the spot where jellyfin/plex is expecting the file to be.

    It’s an automation stack for media piracy.

    SpaceInvaderOne has a bunch of tutorials on how to set things up if you want to dive into the full self-hosting ocean.

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    • N nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de

      How do people have so much money to buy so much storage?

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      CoopaLoopa
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      Used enterprise drives and a SAS controller. Last batch of SAS drives I bought were 16TB for $115 each.

      Unraid (and I think ZFS and Ceph as well) supports adding drives 1-by-1 and different sized drives to your array.
      You can just buy single drives or spares whenever a sale comes around to keep expanding your storage.

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      • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

        No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.

        “Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

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        sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        If you are saying 330 movies is ‘hoarding’, I don’t know what to tell you.

        When I grew up in the 90s, we had almost 50 VHS movies.

        Wealthier friends of mine had up to or over 100 or 200.

        Now what took a large shelfing unit or cabinet… fits into about the size of a brick.

        Also… you are missing that digital data can be essentially instantly copied, duplicated, and shared with others.

        You are also entirely discounting the idea that infrastructure could collapse, you are assuming that using it as we do now, will remain as relatively inexpensive as it is now, forever.

        I am not so optimistic.

        From that standpoint, it is less hoarding, as it is archiving.

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          I didn’t hear no chill though.

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          • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

            No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.

            “Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

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            CoopaLoopa
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            I don’t think there’s a c/datahoarder. But that was exactly what the reddit community was called.

            The person you’re arguing with is likely running a private ‘netflix’ instance using Jellyfin or Plex.
            It’s not my cuppa, but I think I have every episode of every season of Below Deck, Love Island, and Bachelor/Bachelorette on my instance.

            You start running out of space pretty quickly when a dozen people are using it for their daily media consumption.

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            • basiclemmon98B basiclemmon98

              If I can just add to what @glinncor@lemmy.world said:

              I personally have one so that I don’t have to mess around with plugging in any hdmi cables and moving my laptop from where it’s docked, I can flick on the server and then it can just be accessed on any tv in the house by anyone.

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              downvote_hunter
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              This is the way. And you can watch from anywhere in the world if you set things up with a VPN.

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              • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

                Music we listen to many times but it barely uses any space for today’s standards.

                Streaming TV is always something different, so, no point in storing it.

                And movies? There may be a few favourites we watch again and even if they were 4K wouldn’t use that much space. 20TB is space enough for 330 4K 2 hour movies! Or 10,000 1080P movies. Let’s say that your job is to watch movies 8 hours a day. That’s 4 movies per day, that’s 500 weeks to watch 10,000 movies. Or 10 years (if you take a two week vacation every year). And that’s without repeating.

                Let’s say you have 100 favourite movies that you like to watch on demand on 4 K (really an exaggeration) you only need 6 TB.

                Si, my question stands.

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                procapra@lemmy.ml
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                It depends on the quality you’re looking for. Data hoarders often keep really really high quality files so they can convert it into whatever they want later on.

                A 4k remux can range from ~30gb-80gb. That’s ~200 4k movies assuming most are around 50gb.

                A 48khz .flac music album is ~500mb. That’s not alot but music makes sense to save locally, plenty of people just keep their music going all the time on shuffle.

                Also

                Streaming TV is always something different, so, no point in storing it

                There is no point not storing it, you’re going to use the data either way, why not keep it? At the end of the day, you can get 20tb of storage for a reasonable amount of money, and typically the people with that kinda storage have accumulated it over the course of several years. You can always decide to get rid of stuff you don’t need if you find yourself low on space.

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                  jlow (he / him)
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                  O woe us, what are we gonna do!

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                  • C CoopaLoopa

                    All of the *arr apps are for automatic media downloading and organization.

                    You want all the new seasons of a show?
                    Just mark that as a ‘monitored’ show in sonarr. When new episodes are released, sonarr uses your torrent indexer to get the torrent or magnet link and sends that to your torrent downloader. Once the download completes, it renames the file with metadata and puts it into the spot where jellyfin/plex is expecting the file to be.

                    It’s an automation stack for media piracy.

                    SpaceInvaderOne has a bunch of tutorials on how to set things up if you want to dive into the full self-hosting ocean.

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                    seadoo@lemmy.world
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                    Very cool, thanks for the explanation!

                    Maybe this is just me but using a torrent through a CLI is something I have not explored at all, I just transfer files back and forth. Seems very useful

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                    • M millie@slrpnk.net

                      What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?

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                      bombastion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      In addition to the UI others have mentioned, I host mine behind a VPN so all my friends can use it over the Internet, too. It gets a decent amount of traffic every week.

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                      • S sluyter548@lemmy.world

                        10 gb hdd for 200$? Dude I have a bridge to sell you 🙂

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                        cenzorrll@lemmy.world
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                        I have many multiple tb drives to sell them. As many as they want.

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                        • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                          I didn’t hear no chill though.

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                          white_nrdy@programming.dev
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                          “Jellyfin and put it in”

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                          • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

                            No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.

                            “Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

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                            colin@lemmy.uninsane.org
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                            “Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

                            a large media library achieves a similar thing a subscription to on-demand streaming achieves: pick a film to watch, and you can immediately press play. there’s also a curation aspect. whenever one friend speaks highly of a film, i grab it. then once i have a larger group of friends over for movie night, we just peruse the library until we find something everyone’s in the right mood for. whatever we select from that library, i can be confident it’ll be received well: it’s already been vetted.

                            i mean it’s not that different from the original value proposition for Netflix, only it survives even after they turn off the money faucet.

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                              pringus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              fuck yeah

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                                winter (she/it)
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                                I LOVE SELF HOSTING

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                                • E es_eskaliert@feddit.org

                                  Jellyfin and stick it in

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                                  modus@lemmy.world
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                                  Plex n coitus

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                                  • M millie@slrpnk.net

                                    What exactly is the point of a Jellyfin server? Wouldn’t it be easier to just like, open the files? Why would that require a server?

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                                    jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
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                                    because it is convenient to access the movies from a smartphone or laptop from anywhere in the house without dealing with the headaches of windows file explorer shitting itself upon seeing a folder with 3000 files in it

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                                    • bombastion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneB bombastion@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      In addition to the UI others have mentioned, I host mine behind a VPN so all my friends can use it over the Internet, too. It gets a decent amount of traffic every week.

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                                      all4one@lemmy.zip
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                                      Are you just giving them a shared login or do you set them all up individually?

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                                      • B burghler

                                        Just don’t talk about the part where we spend ~$1000 on acquiring 20TB of HDD

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                                        jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
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                                        refurbished drives are great for storing easily replaceable data

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                                        • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

                                          No, I’m trying to understand why someone would store so many pictures. 20TB is enough for 330 4K movies or 10,000 1080P movies.

                                          “Just in case I need it” is the principle of hoarding.

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                                          jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
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                                          composite video waveforms are about a treabyte per vhs tape, I don’t think Jellyfin supports playing them but thats an extremely “normal” amount of video content for everyone to have created

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