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  3. The party of Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz, CDU, is projected to win the NRW municipal vote, with the far-right AfD making major gains.

The party of Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz, CDU, is projected to win the NRW municipal vote, with the far-right AfD making major gains.

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  • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

    @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff And extremely well funded too. Very hard, if not impossible, to counter this kind of power. Seems politicians have been bought off or blind sided by what is happening too.

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    @alex_p_roe
    It takes a while to realize it's a huge steam roller coming at you. And once you realize, you have precious little time to work out a plan. Although I refuse to give up hope that it can be done.
    @GottaLaff

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    • GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺E GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

      @alex_p_roe
      It takes a while to realize it's a huge steam roller coming at you. And once you realize, you have precious little time to work out a plan. Although I refuse to give up hope that it can be done.
      @GottaLaff

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      @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well, first you’ve got to wake people up and politicians could do this though no longer through much of the media. And the message needs to be coordinated. It’d be good to back things up with facts but even they don’t tend to work so well today.

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      • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

        @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well, first you’ve got to wake people up and politicians could do this though no longer through much of the media. And the message needs to be coordinated. It’d be good to back things up with facts but even they don’t tend to work so well today.

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        @alex_p_roe
        Yes, that's what I mean by well-meshed. It's hard to drown out a few hundred megaphones blaring out a propaganda message in unison, especially with the way the opposition is (being kept) divided.
        @GottaLaff

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        • GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺E GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

          @alex_p_roe
          Yes, that's what I mean by well-meshed. It's hard to drown out a few hundred megaphones blaring out a propaganda message in unison, especially with the way the opposition is (being kept) divided.
          @GottaLaff

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          @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well meshed because it’s very well funded! It’s not easy to overcome so many megaphones. Nobody has managed it so far.

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          • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

            @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well meshed because it’s very well funded! It’s not easy to overcome so many megaphones. Nobody has managed it so far.

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            @alex_p_roe
            That's the whole point, isn't it? The stakeholders in this obscene scheme are already so rich that they control all the megaphones. And whoever manages opposition strong enough to be noticed is immediately crushed. Litigation against moguls of this caliber is, to all intents and purposes, impossible.
            @GottaLaff

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            • GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺E GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

              @alex_p_roe
              That's the whole point, isn't it? The stakeholders in this obscene scheme are already so rich that they control all the megaphones. And whoever manages opposition strong enough to be noticed is immediately crushed. Litigation against moguls of this caliber is, to all intents and purposes, impossible.
              @GottaLaff

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              @alex_p_roe
              Just saw this.
              @GottaLaff

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              • GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺E GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

                @alex_p_roe
                Just saw this.
                @GottaLaff

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                @alex_p_roe
                Re. the media: complacent or complicit? More often than not the latter, I fear.
                @GottaLaff

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                • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                  We have fewer police on the roads
                  We have fewer doctors
                  We have very expensive dental care
                  We have to retire later
                  Hate is widespread
                  Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                  Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                  Food quality is falling
                  Energy costs are rising
                  Beaches and rivers are polluted
                  Weaker policing (uk)
                  Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                  The rich are getting richer
                  We now have “working poor”.
                  World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                  List update: Public transport quality has been eroded. National companies have been offshored thus reducing their benefit to local economies.
                  Trans people are being persecuted for no reason, as are #LGBTQ and others, for colour or whatever.
                  The media has become little more than a propaganda arm for the right and the rich.
                  - This list is not applicable to all nations yet but, please, keep voting for the right 😉 #politics (3/3) #FarRight

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                  • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                    @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff I’ve been compiling a list - not in order, feel free to add to it - it has a UK bias. Cc @ChrisMayLA6

                    Thanks to the political #right #neoliberalism and the #farright:
                    We can no longer afford kids
                    We no longer have stable employment
                    We have a polluted earth
                    University is too expensive for those who could benefit from it
                    Cars and motorbikes have become too expensive for most people
                    Housing has become too expensive more most people
                    Healthcare services are failing… (1/3)

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                    We have fewer police on the roads
                    We have fewer doctors
                    We have very expensive dental care
                    We have to retire later
                    Hate is widespread
                    Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                    Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                    Food quality is falling
                    Energy costs are rising
                    Beaches and rivers are polluted
                    Weaker policing (uk)
                    Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                    The rich are getting richer
                    We now have “working poor”.
                    World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                    • GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺E GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

                      @alex_p_roe
                      Re. the media: complacent or complicit? More often than not the latter, I fear.
                      @GottaLaff

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                      @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff I’ve been compiling a list - not in order, feel free to add to it - it has a UK bias. Cc @ChrisMayLA6

                      Thanks to the political #right #neoliberalism and the #farright:
                      We can no longer afford kids
                      We no longer have stable employment
                      We have a polluted earth
                      University is too expensive for those who could benefit from it
                      Cars and motorbikes have become too expensive for most people
                      Housing has become too expensive more most people
                      Healthcare services are failing… (1/3)

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                      • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                        We have fewer police on the roads
                        We have fewer doctors
                        We have very expensive dental care
                        We have to retire later
                        Hate is widespread
                        Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                        Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                        Food quality is falling
                        Energy costs are rising
                        Beaches and rivers are polluted
                        Weaker policing (uk)
                        Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                        The rich are getting richer
                        We now have “working poor”.
                        World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                        @alex_p_roe Public transport is ceasing to exist. Buses and trains are obviously far more efficient than cars but conservatives hate them because they aren't individual, and have made them so much more expensive than they need to be.

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                        • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                          We have fewer police on the roads
                          We have fewer doctors
                          We have very expensive dental care
                          We have to retire later
                          Hate is widespread
                          Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                          Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                          Food quality is falling
                          Energy costs are rising
                          Beaches and rivers are polluted
                          Weaker policing (uk)
                          Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                          The rich are getting richer
                          We now have “working poor”.
                          World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                          @alex_p_roe some call it the culture wars... quote from the same man that said that the only "mistake" from Orwell's "1984" was placing in the future a reality that was already here (the book was launched around (1948-1949)....

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                            @alex_p_roe Public transport is ceasing to exist. Buses and trains are obviously far more efficient than cars but conservatives hate them because they aren't individual, and have made them so much more expensive than they need to be.

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                            @PointlessSpike Good point - will add that.

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                            • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                              We have fewer police on the roads
                              We have fewer doctors
                              We have very expensive dental care
                              We have to retire later
                              Hate is widespread
                              Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                              Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                              Food quality is falling
                              Energy costs are rising
                              Beaches and rivers are polluted
                              Weaker policing (uk)
                              Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                              The rich are getting richer
                              We now have “working poor”.
                              World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                              @alex_p_roe
                              The American Dream, 21st century style.
                              A dream for billionaires, a living nightmare for others.

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                                @alex_p_roe some call it the culture wars... quote from the same man that said that the only "mistake" from Orwell's "1984" was placing in the future a reality that was already here (the book was launched around (1948-1949)....

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                                @pookiesorcery Orwell was undoubtedly prescient and no doubt took into consideration the nazi and communist regimes. The USSR at the time resembled Orwell’s big brother. Actually, with today’s tech, 1984 is getting closer! I don’t think we are quite there yet but events in the US are nudging us ever closer.

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                                  @alex_p_roe
                                  The American Dream, 21st century style.
                                  A dream for billionaires, a living nightmare for others.

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                                  @brouhaha That appears to be where we are headed but they may well be killing the geese that lay their golden eggs 😉

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                                    @brouhaha That appears to be where we are headed but they may well be killing the geese that lay their golden eggs 😉

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                                    @alex_p_roe
                                    The billionaires believe that by investing hundreds of billions of dollars into AI research, that they will get AGI that eliminates their dependence on human labor. They want the science fiction post-scarcity economy, but only for themselves. Once the billionaires have AGI, they have no interest in the rest of us, and would gladly eliminate us if we get uppity.

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                                      @alex_p_roe
                                      The billionaires believe that by investing hundreds of billions of dollars into AI research, that they will get AGI that eliminates their dependence on human labor. They want the science fiction post-scarcity economy, but only for themselves. Once the billionaires have AGI, they have no interest in the rest of us, and would gladly eliminate us if we get uppity.

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                                      @alex_p_roe
                                      The fly in their ointment is that they're not going to get AGI for a very long time, if ever. Most of the money is going to LLMs, which are not on a path that leads to any intelligence, let alone AGI. Sam Altman promises otherwise, so they keep throwing money at it, and accelerating the destruction of the ecosphere in the process.

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                                        @alex_p_roe
                                        The billionaires believe that by investing hundreds of billions of dollars into AI research, that they will get AGI that eliminates their dependence on human labor. They want the science fiction post-scarcity economy, but only for themselves. Once the billionaires have AGI, they have no interest in the rest of us, and would gladly eliminate us if we get uppity.

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                                        @brouhaha The billionaires will end up with an extremely dull world in that case! We need a few more humane billionaires if they can even exist! I can only think of Soros!

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                                          @alex_p_roe
                                          The fly in their ointment is that they're not going to get AGI for a very long time, if ever. Most of the money is going to LLMs, which are not on a path that leads to any intelligence, let alone AGI. Sam Altman promises otherwise, so they keep throwing money at it, and accelerating the destruction of the ecosphere in the process.

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                                          @brouhaha Ha! It appears that quite a few billionaires believe LLMs are #AI! They are not (but I will admit to thinking they were initially). Machine learning is AI tech that helps build LLMs but there’s that #hallucination issue!

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