Yet another reason Proton should not be your default go-to for email service:https://haunted

@cR0w I keep looking but have not found much yet- honest question, what are some better and more trustworthy alternatives?

@cR0w
Same question, if you wouldn't mind? I've used them for a while to decouple from Google. Being disabled because they don't appreciate my stance on something is very concerning.

@bluegreenandfree

@creativegamingname @bluegreenandfree For a lot of use cases, especially for people that don't want their email address tied to their legal identity, it's the most convenient option. They don't do identity checks or require phone numbers and they allow Tor access. And it's generally trusted among other email services. So I get that it may still be the best of the bad options.

I run my own mail servers for personal things but I know that's not for everyone. I also use Proton for throwaway accounts for projects where I'd rather not have the other parties know who I am offline.

So the short answer is that I do not have a better option for a lot of use cases. My point was more to get people to look around a bit more instead of taking what seems to have become the default of using Proton. You still may come back to it as the least bad option, but at least it would a more-informed decision.

@cR0w
I appreciate the info. Completely agree in self-hosting for the same reasons. I'm hardly a security expert but I like to make informed decisions.

With the way the world is not-so-slowly AL slopping everything - it might be time to rethink my "normal".

Thank you for your time.

@bluegreenandfree

@creativegamingname @cR0w @bluegreenandfree
Honestly not everyone can self-host and do it safely. I'm a medical doctor and the most tech-savvy among my peers due to my special interests, still, I wouldn't trust myself with such responsibility. We need to support a company with some morals while definitely holding them responsible.

@CamellisSinensis Yes. Self-hosting is not for everyone. Having the option to do it is great, and we should ideally do what we can to encourage and enable that; but it's not the answer for everyone or to everything.

A good start is to do our best to make choices that don't lock us into specific software or service providers. Make it easy to move, even if we don't immediately exercise that.

Sometimes someone else doing the hard part *is* better.

@creativegamingname @cR0w @bluegreenandfree