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Campaigners urge EU to mandate 15 years of OS updates

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  • B buttnugget@lemmy.world

    You can? How do you do that?

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    hitekrednek@lemmy.world
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    By replacing it with something better.

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    • H hitekrednek@lemmy.world

      By replacing it with something better.

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      buttnugget@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, I’ll just call up the CTO and ask for a new deployment of 300,000 VMs lmfao

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      • pathosK pathos

        I didn’t go into the specifics but I was thinking more in line with prosumer friendly linux distributions that can be dropped in to replace win 10. I know stuff like linux mint exists for that case.

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        Cricket [he/him]
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        Got it, thanks for the clarification.

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        • B bless@lemmy.ml

          You start high and negotiate down. If you start low, you’ll get even less

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          petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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          😄I guess, I am bad in capitalism 🤣🙃

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          • R ratten@lemmings.world

            Pretty sure Rocky Linux provides updates for 10 years.

            It’s not asking too much for multi-billion dollar corporations to provide 15 years of updates.

            They have more than enough resources.

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            matthew@midwest.social
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            IBM providing 10 years for RHEL is doing most of the heavy lifting in the case of rocky linux

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            • S sleafordmod@feddit.uk

              Should OS makers, like Microsoft, be legally required to provide 15 years of security updates?

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              maplebar@lemmy.world
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              Please mandate open bootloaders on devices, that’s what we truly need.

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              • merdaverse@lemmy.worldM merdaverse@lemmy.world

                Microsoft’s plan to end Windows 10 support next month — which may make an estimated 400 million PCs obsolete

                I don’t get this. Can’t those PCs update to the new version? Yes, I am very aware that win11 is a shit show and win10 was better.

                But Ubuntu also has a similar support policy for updates:

                Ubuntu LTS versions get five years of updates, while non-LTS only gets nine months.

                Would all the Linux versions out there be subjected the same 15 years of updates??

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                hraegsvelmir@ani.social
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                Would all the Linux versions out there be subjected the same 15 years of updates??

                They shouldn’t be, since the model for updates is quite distinct from Windows or iOS in a way that I would argue should effectively meet the requirements anyways. If a distro releases a new version twice a year, outside of enterprise situations where a company is paying for support, there’s nothing to really stop anyone who wants from upgrading. They don’t charge for it, and while new versions might add out-of-the-box support for new hardware, it’s pretty rare for Linux to suddenly change minimum hardware requirements in a way that requires you to buy a whole new machine in order to run the latest release. The only case that immediately comes to mind is that of distros increasingly removing support for i386 machines, but in fairness, Intel discontinued manufacturing of i386 chips 18 years ago.

                Of course, this all assumes that the people in charge of making these decisions actually understand the technology in at least a general sense, and it’s not being left up to a bunch of idiots who have refused to keep up with any innovations more recent than the fax machine, so odds are kind of crap.

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                • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

                  TPM is more about securing data from PC owners rather than for them. Since it’s there anyways, it is used to support bitlocker, but the reason they are pushing it so much is because it might (depending on whether it actually is secure) be able to allow content providers to allow users to view their content without needing to give them access to copy or edit it.

                  And there isn’t any guarantee that the uses that do benefit the user’s security don’t have some backdoor for approved crackers to get in. Like doesn’t the MS account store a copy of the recovery key for bitlocker? Which is nice for when the user needs it, but also comes in handy if MS wants to grant access to anyone else.

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                  smith6612@lemmy.world
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                  Microsoft does on Home Edition without even asking, and it doesn’t provide the users with a choice to store the key locally OR put it on the Cloud account, like Windows Pro does. I’m sure Microsoft has a master key to an account as well. But one can hope they do not, and they are also storing those BitLocker keys in an encrypted fashion in whatever database runs the backend.

                  Also agree with you on TPMs. They are useful when invoked by the user. DRM on content and software is, and always will be, anti-consumer. As for now secure TPMs are, I know Infineon did have that Random Number Generator bug which basically broke the TPMs. So there’s that.

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                  • S sleafordmod@feddit.uk

                    Should OS makers, like Microsoft, be legally required to provide 15 years of security updates?

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                    recked_wralph@lemmy.world
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                    15 years. 15 years. She got one of your kids got you for 15 years

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                    • S sleafordmod@feddit.uk

                      Should OS makers, like Microsoft, be legally required to provide 15 years of security updates?

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                      Why only 15?

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