Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive
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@Eeveecraft @rysiek He might be right in terms of what happens (I'll take your word for it) but to me, that's not a negative thing.
Personally I find that growth almost always happens at the expense of people already at the platform or who are customers because growth focuses on everyone who is not there and not to those who are.
My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited. People keep talking about how the Fediverse is going to revolutionize things and fight back against ensh!ttification and centralization, but if the biggest platform on the Fediverse can hardly maintain 1m monthly active users after about a decade, then it's not doing its job very well at inspiring that change.
It's great that the people already inside the Fediverse are having a great time, but that's not stopping the rapid ensh!ttification of everything outside it. I don't really want the Fediverse to solely be a nerd's club because only nerds use it, that wasn't the point of it. Like, if the Fediverse is so good, why wouldn't we want to share it with more people and encourage them to adopt it and get away from algorithm/slop hell?
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek It's funny that it has been and will continue to be here much longer than anyone predicted. To me, it sounds like a complaint that it's not like Twitter or Facebook, and because of that, it will die soon. So, next year and the year after that, someone could write this again and again, but then, after a decade, it will still be here with all its users.
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My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited. People keep talking about how the Fediverse is going to revolutionize things and fight back against ensh!ttification and centralization, but if the biggest platform on the Fediverse can hardly maintain 1m monthly active users after about a decade, then it's not doing its job very well at inspiring that change.
It's great that the people already inside the Fediverse are having a great time, but that's not stopping the rapid ensh!ttification of everything outside it. I don't really want the Fediverse to solely be a nerd's club because only nerds use it, that wasn't the point of it. Like, if the Fediverse is so good, why wouldn't we want to share it with more people and encourage them to adopt it and get away from algorithm/slop hell?
@Eeveecraft @rysiek I'm all for Mastodon to improve to be more approachable to new users but I don't see the slow or stagnated growth as such a big problem.
Anectodal but most of the time when I hear people in my circles talk about why they don't like Mastodon, it's all about the lack of features like which I'm escaping the Xs and Blueskys and Threads and Facebooks of the world.
Algorithmic feeds filled with content you didn't choose to follow, centralised governance, lack of choice.
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@rysiek @chrisp
Unfashionable take, but I really liked G+ (in the early days, before the mandatory YouTube disaster).
I got in as part of the first wave of general public users, courtesy of an invite from a friend who worked for Google.Woz was on it, and I found a lot of interesting music there (that wasn't being pushed anywhere else).
It (unsurprisingly) went to shit after they added the mandatory requirement to have a G+ account to add comments on YouTube videos.
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@rysiek How is the Metaverse going, anyway?
Mastodon has outlived the Metaverse, bitcoin usefulness, NFTs...
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@BenjaminNelan
1990 was ten years ago, and you can't convince me otherwise.
@rysiek@xinit @BenjaminNelan @rysiek I have to admit, it does sometimes feel like the 00s, 10s and 20s have been a slowly worsening series of time loops as everything slow crashes. So maybe it's only been 10 long time whimy years.
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@Eeveecraft @rysiek I'm all for Mastodon to improve to be more approachable to new users but I don't see the slow or stagnated growth as such a big problem.
Anectodal but most of the time when I hear people in my circles talk about why they don't like Mastodon, it's all about the lack of features like which I'm escaping the Xs and Blueskys and Threads and Facebooks of the world.
Algorithmic feeds filled with content you didn't choose to follow, centralised governance, lack of choice.
@Eeveecraft @rysiek Also, from what I've seen in the Mastodon community, the preference is that there wouldn't be a main instance that keeps growing but rather that Mastodon would promote other instances in the sign up phase to spread the people across different instances.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek Know-it all newbies have a Dunning-Kruger vibe to them, at least Mastodon is not a Nazi-bar!
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@MikeFromLFE @RoyHorace @mxchara @rysiek
I think you have tech-related interests and hobbies, but what you put together tends to be considered "shadow IT" in the industry (even though its now more widely used).
I suspect a lot of those aged 50-70+ do now have greater tech skills than younger generations as they *had* to learn a bit more about how the computer works (such as file and directory structures) and until 1990s computers with GUI weren't that commonplace..
@vfrmedia @RoyHorace @mxchara @rysiek
Shadow IT - I like that!Yes, I could program a Commodore PET computer in Basic and a ZX-something-or-other.
The PET was at work in about 1981 and we used it to print laboratory results onto labels which avoided the errors from our nasty handwriting!
The HTML stuff was on a Mac of some shape and I was given a lot of encouragement by one of our consultant pathologists. In that job I also had to learn how to fettle a big DEC thingy with tape cartridges that ran a medium sized network.
At home I had a Prestel terminal and a home PC that I was happy to get into the insides of. (The first of those was an Amstrad PC1512 that's still in the loft)So, yes, lots of IT background but none of it •directly• relevant to the 21st century.
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@xinit @BenjaminNelan @rysiek I have to admit, it does sometimes feel like the 00s, 10s and 20s have been a slowly worsening series of time loops as everything slow crashes. So maybe it's only been 10 long time whimy years.
@Kalshann I have been watching old Law & Order TV shows, and then the 90s feel like the 1890s. I don't remember having hair or clothes like this.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek@mstdn.social nine years later, Mastodon just made even better and #Misskey is giving Mastodon a hand.
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@rysiek please don't open that article, they'll see an uptick in traffic coming from Mastodon, which won't survive
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek Ah yes. Opinions on new tech and services of those who have drank the Koolaid. Gatta love the fact the article just sits there frozen in time, while the rest of the world continues to move forward. The internet truly never forgets.
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I blogged about that last year:
https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114284660479008679To his credit, Lance Ulanoff admitted then he was wrong about fedi:
https://mastodon.social/@Lance_Ulanoff/114285108628269898@rysiek Ulanoff got stuck and can NOT evolve past his scant understanding of the "internet", beyond Web2.0
He never had a single tech opinion that was not handed to him, with a check, by some corporate PR douchebag.
Always consider your sources.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek I started following this Lars Ulanoff, if he's such a big cheese. Couldn't find William Shatner though.
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@rysiek Ulanoff got stuck and can NOT evolve past his scant understanding of the "internet", beyond Web2.0
He never had a single tech opinion that was not handed to him, with a check, by some corporate PR douchebag.
Always consider your sources.
@rysiek look at a typical gem from his sharp mind.
Zero opinions that did not come with a check by some corpo doucho.
He couldn't get out of vim, if he found himself there, if we gave him another computer to look it up.
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@rysiek there's a lot of good people saying important things on Twitter still, too. People I respect and people I care about. Network effects are crucial.
@quinn sure. and it's to some extent on us to create the network effects we want to see in the world.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
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I think we should all celebrate by tooting "Toot!" at his mastodon.social account.
@EdCates @falcennial no need for dogpiling, we're better than that.
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