Political discourse

You’ve already asserted that everything is politics whether I like it or not, including this conversation, and since I don’t get involved in “prove me wrong” political conversations on the internet I’ll just exit.

Wasn’t there a movement to have the western states cecede after the last 2 Trump wins?

“Living on the governments tit” is straight up right-winger bullshit. We pay taxes, why the fuck should the government hoard that money and use it on shit that doesn’t benefit the people? That is the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of a government, to pool resources and skills to better society as a whole.

True on your other points, but here they’re saying the money should be given to employees rather than employers. That’s not rightwing at all; it’s leftwing if anything. I mean it’s the farming version of being anti-corporate welfare.

Sure, that had a semblance of socialism and rational thought to it, but the fact that they spin it as a negative and imply that the government shouldn’t be funding social welfare is pretty clear in showing that they’re too ignorant to actually understand what socialism is.

Ironic, considering that right-wingers more than any other group rely on sucking the governments tit to survive day to day

Exactly. I think government and corporations exist to generate wealth to benefit society. Right now it exists to benefit corporations.

Free open borders doesn’t work unless everyone, literally everyone is working on the same legal framework . This could be good long term project for humanity but as it stands right now now, national divisions matter. You can’t have people that weren’t born here overwhelming our nation and getting aid when our own people are suffering economic hardship. The problem with people like you is that you want everything now, and that’s not possible except through extreme violence and often ends up not solving the problems. I would love to be able to remake the system from the top down, but we know that never ends right.

I don’t think science is bullshit, I think non reroducible experiments are not science. I love science, but the social sciences in the present exist in the same stage of development as medicine was in the Middle Ages. This is a provable fact. Universities need to be centers of knowledge again and not job training centers.

Like someone pointed out, I said corporations are living off the government tit, that’s a fact. I would prefer if the tit was feeding us instead. I think I made it very clear that I’m pro social safety nets.

Fascism has an established definition. Hell there’s a literal manifesto

Can I be a leftist without being a tankie then?

Six strawmen in a single post! Well done, that must be some kind of record!

It’s not a bell curve. It’s a trumpet headed to the right.

First, they’re not claiming to be socialist. Second, they’re criticizing corporate welfare, not social welfare. They support social welfare in the exact same comment. Rich pricks sucking on the government’s tit and providing nothing to society is a bad thing, or at least the leftwing position considers it to be a bad thing. Are you even reading what they wrote?

It is clever, you see, that any disagreement must be done online, therefore reinforcing the premise of the meme.

Grifters? They’re hellbent on christofascism.

First, I never said they were a socialist. Pretty clear they aren’t, not sure where you’re going with that. Second, they’re criticizing the government using tax dollars to ensure we have functional agriculture. Cutting funding for agriculture and giving the funding to corporations instead is literally being carried out by the regime, as shown in project 2025 and with doge cuts.

But sure, we can just assume it’s a coincidence that they agree with the fascists on that.

1. Our nation is not overwhelmed with immigrants stealing our jobs and resources, as much as fox news has convinced you that is the case. It’s in fact fascists and capitalists doing that, not that I expect you understand the difference between the working class and capiltalist class.The problem with you people, to use your phrasing, is you think there are MS13 members on every block shooting Americans and taking their paychecks, but “the left” is covering it up.

2. You keep saying there are studies and provable facts showing science is fake. Let’s see it, show us your peer reviewed sources showing us how fake science is.

3. You did not say corporations. You said farms. Should I quote it back to you? Here: “But farms are already inefficient, corrupt, and mismanaged and also living on the government tits”. No coincidence that the Trump regime says the same shit and is cutting agriculture funding and instead lining billionaire pockets, which brings us back to point one. Though I’d imagine you think the leftist immigrants are also the CEOs

Try anarchism. Goes down smooth

Yes? You do realize tankies are a minority group and that in many nations “leftist” is just a normal political position?

I’m honestly not sure what you’re trying to say here

Reeeeeeeeeee I spouted centrist nonsense in a leftist space and I’m getting ratio’d reeeeeee

To me it looks like you’re trying to paint everyone who’s not a Nazi or a tankie as an ‘enlightened centrist’.

Bruh there’s like a triple-digit number of tankies in all of North America lmao. Meanwhile half of the USA is MAGA. If you need to visualize this, go look for literally any act of violence motivated by far-left beliefs. There’s what, like two in the last 30 years? Claiming any sort of equivalence between MAGA and the left is just false.