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I Got This Right, Right?

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  • D diskcrasher@lemmy.world

    They now claim he was “left leaning”. It’s a war of propaganda.

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    Schadrach
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    Likely based on his texts with his transwoman roommate.

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    • B blametheantifa@lemmy.world

      They were always going to blame it on the left. Facts don’t matter to rightists, only keeping control of their followers. All of Lemmy called it the moment the assassination happened.

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      lemmyprnt@lemmy.world
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      #60

      His mom literally said that her son shifted left and got into arguments with his father about politics. How does it feel to be on the side of lies and disinformation?

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        manmoth@lemmy.ml
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        His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

        https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

        How is any of this right wing?

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        • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

          His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

          https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

          How is any of this right wing?

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          tempest@lemmy.ca
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          Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

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          • T tempest@lemmy.ca

            Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

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            lemmyprnt@lemmy.world
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            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/16/tyler-robinson-what-we-know-new-revelations-in-charlie-kirk-murder/86188463007/

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            • Q ɔiƚoxɘup

              I heard that on a podcast on the way home, laughed, then realized that a lot of people would believe that. Then it wasn’t funny anymore.

              At this point I don’t really entirely believe anything that I’ve heard and I think that’s exactly what they want.

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              lemmyprnt@lemmy.world
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              #64

              Robinson’s mother told police that her son had “began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,” the court document said.

              And she said that over the past year or so, Robinson had become more political and had “started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented,” according to the documents.

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              • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

                His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

                https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

                How is any of this right wing?

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                deaf_fish
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                #65

                Being pro-gay and protrans doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not right-wing. It just means you don’t share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

                If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he’s not right wing.

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                • D deaf_fish

                  Being pro-gay and protrans doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not right-wing. It just means you don’t share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

                  If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he’s not right wing.

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                  manmoth@lemmy.ml
                  wrote last edited by manmoth@lemmy.ml
                  #66

                  So how do you know he’s right wing?

                  Edit: Also how do address the hate comment? And justify him killing Kirk for not being far-right enough?

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                  • R remon@ani.social

                    Well, that aged like fine milk.

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                    danzania
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                    It’s becoming clear people view reality as a “choose your own adventure” game.

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                    • A Aedis

                      I thought it was a trans antifa Marxist! /s

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                      manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                      It’s starting to look like it was.

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                      • D danzania

                        It’s becoming clear people view reality as a “choose your own adventure” game.

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                        remon@ani.social
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                        Why wait for facts when you can speculate?

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                        • T tempest@lemmy.ca

                          Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

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                          ghostedic@sh.itjust.works
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                          Is the BBC good enough?
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g1e0z2ero

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                          • T tempest@lemmy.ca

                            Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

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                            manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                            #71

                            You can actually. I suggest using this website: www.google.com

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                            • J jsomae@lemmy.ml

                              The oligarchs want that, and the oligarchs have many politicians in their pocket I presume. However, it’s not like non-corrupt non-bought politicians have any reason to be afraid of a unified nation – they’re in politics to effect change in the first place.

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                              chrischryse@lemmy.world
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                              Ik just feels like they don’t care. Overall I just hate all this in fighting makes it hard to get stuff done when you point fingers and shit

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                              • Q ɔiƚoxɘup

                                I heard that on a podcast on the way home, laughed, then realized that a lot of people would believe that. Then it wasn’t funny anymore.

                                At this point I don’t really entirely believe anything that I’ve heard and I think that’s exactly what they want.

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                                ghostedic@sh.itjust.works
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                                It’s not funny that people believed he was a groyper. This was such an obvious thing that you need to talk to a psychiatrist about it.

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                                • N neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works

                                  Nobody has direct evidence of the shooter’s motivations or political affiliation today. Nobody.

                                  That could change, but today this is true.

                                  Any evidence we have is circumstantial. Most of that circumstantial evidence points in the direction of an extreme right winger.

                                  I’m sure there’s some circumstantial evidence pointing in the opposite direction, but it pales in comparison to the circumstantial evidence pointing in the far right direction.

                                  Much of the circumstantial evidence pointing away from the far right came from a mis-attribution from the FBI to a trans rights marker that was debunked as categorically untrue. Or statements from the Utah Gov which are (AFAIK) not backed up by any actual evidence other than how he “wishes” it was. Or from Trump who is known for lying and making things up.

                                  I’d be curious what evidence they have that hasn’t been announced/released yet that makes them think that.

                                  I suspect they want it to be true that he was left leaning and they may be assigning too great a weight on the debunked FBI claims, the Utah Gov claims, and Trump’s claims; despite most of the circumstantial evidence that’s been released so far pointing in the direction of him being far right.

                                  To be clear, this could change later today if the investigators were to release evidence about the shooter’s motivations. Until then, all we’ve got to go on is what circumstantial stuff has been released so far, and that’s largely pointing in the direction of the far right.

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                                  Schadrach
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                                  Nobody has direct evidence of the shooter’s motivations or political affiliation today. Nobody.

                                  From the texts between him and his roomate that have been publicly released. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/charlie-kirk-shooting-prosecutor-utah

                                  “Roommate: ‘Why?’ Robinson: ‘Why did I do it?’ Roommate: ‘Yeah.“’ Robinson: ‘I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

                                  So, we have his direct statement to his transwoman roommate as to his motive, either you can take that at face value or claim it’s some carefully crafted lie intentionally meant to deceive us as to his real motives. You do you.

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                                  • L lemmyprnt@lemmy.world

                                    His mom literally said that her son shifted left and got into arguments with his father about politics. How does it feel to be on the side of lies and disinformation?

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                                    blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                    I see your account is brand new. Whether you’re a Russian or Chinese operative, a MAGA propagandist, or just extremely gullible, the Fediverse is probably not the place for you.

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                                    • D deaf_fish

                                      Being pro-gay and protrans doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not right-wing. It just means you don’t share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

                                      If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he’s not right wing.

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                                      ghostedic@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Deranged take, touch grass

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                                      • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

                                        His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

                                        https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

                                        How is any of this right wing?

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                                        Anakin-Marc Zaeger
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                                        To a Nazi, anything less than pure, unadulterated Nazism is “left-leaning”.

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                                        • S surph_ninja@lemmy.world

                                          “Right wing” still isn’t specific enough, as that also includes democrats.

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                                          ghostedic@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Just to be clear, he was obviously part of the same way of left wing thinking that holds the following opinions:

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