Which stage are you at?
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Canonical: snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap snap
What’s the issue with snaps? I’m still on Ubuntu ans abkut to switch to Debian, but for me its pretty chill atm because I don’t have to worry about updates or security. I know about the terminal aliases, which could be disclosed better, but it’s not that big of a deal to me. I thought it’s pretty cool to have a “store” that’s curated so I don’t have to worry about security, since I use Linux casually.
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Isn’t Endeavour just easy install arch?
I think so, I use EOS on my desktop, but installed no desktop environment, and installed&configured a tilling wm and other stuff for my daily use. I installed Arch on my laptop and aside from the different tilling wm (and other apps for the wm) and some sensible default helper eos apps, the pacman reports are the same.
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Manjaro too, but with even more interference
Manjaro is way different, its spearated from the Arch repos. Never used tho, and not plannig to either.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
& then people return to PopOS, ubuntu, LinuxMint & Debian.
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This. I’ve gone ‘round the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.
Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you don’t have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.
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Why in the world is Fedora peak enlightenment. Any well run, simple, community run distro is peak enlightenment.
It’s a meme, you read into it too much.
If we’re about to be 100% factual and objective, ANY distro that you feel comfortable with, and one that stops you from distrohopping, is peak enlightenment.
That wouldn’t make a good meme though.
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But you said you were on Gentoo
Yeah, switched from Ubuntu to Gentoo eventually, since Ubuntu went to absolute shit.
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This. I’ve gone ‘round the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.
Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you don’t have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.
Yep, 20 years later I’m running kubuntu again, excited for kde OS though.
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This. I’ve gone ‘round the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.
Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you don’t have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.
Plus the actual knowledgable linux gurus ARE ON Linuxmint, PopOS, debian etc…
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I’ve bricked my installation just by logging into root in openSUSE. I am not touching this shit again. I love my arch
I ve been running SUSE for 3years now, it never broke; when I wqs unhappy with an update O rolles back. This is the chilliest distro in my opinion after trying Mint(2 years) and Debian (2years)
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Anybody who calls Linux “GNU/Linux” is rightfully at the bottom of both axes
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
so am at CachyOS (i will say for EndeavourOS cause its also based on Arch,installed on my gaming rig) and Debian + Armbian (on my PI5)
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I like to think I’m the right-most Fedora, but some days I’m for sure the other Fedora.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
@voodooattack no, guru will create own distro
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
30 years of using Linux and I think this chart is whack. RPM based distros run by enterpises are the worst. I was happier with Slackware than Fedora.
I only use those when work forces me too and after the CentOS and SLES fiascos - F that noise. I’ll only recommend debian for work servers unless there are STIG/FedRAMP security requirements and then it’s begrudgingly over to Ubuntu.When work isn’t in the way: EndeavourOS on my desktop, Debian on my servers, and debian/alpine for my containers or better yet; golang and scratch.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I started from Ubuntu. Now I use Mint.
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I did my first ever Linux install on a new build last year. I chose Mint, and the process was very smooth with only a few minor bumps getting up to date drivers for my newish AMD GPU. Since then I’ve grown increasingly annoyed by how limited GNOME applications are in general while also gaining increasing respect for the amount of functionality packed into KDE applications. So I’ve been shopping around for a KDE distribution. Fedora and openSUSE keep coming up, and I think I’ll be trying openSUSE soon. So I guess I’ll be skipping from the bottom left all the way to the top right.
Mint was my first serious move to Linux too! It’s so user friendly and clean.
I’ve been running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with an Nvidia GPU for quite a few years now on my gaming / 3D art rig though, and I’ve really enjoyed it. My Win10 partition has been dormant and shrunk for a very long time.
Just make sure you stick with the default of using BTRFS at least on root, to get that snapshot rollback support!
For being such an up to date distro, it’s ridiculously stable. Usually issues I’ve had have been Nvidia problems, but I’ve been able to roll back until they resolved. Things have definitely gotten much better over time.
Wayland has also matured wonderfully and things like multi monitor setups with different refresh rates work just fine these days.
Totally get what you mean about KDE too, I really enjoy how much easy customization it has!
Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
The only distro I’ve ever used is arch.
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Mint was my first serious move to Linux too! It’s so user friendly and clean.
I’ve been running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with an Nvidia GPU for quite a few years now on my gaming / 3D art rig though, and I’ve really enjoyed it. My Win10 partition has been dormant and shrunk for a very long time.
Just make sure you stick with the default of using BTRFS at least on root, to get that snapshot rollback support!
For being such an up to date distro, it’s ridiculously stable. Usually issues I’ve had have been Nvidia problems, but I’ve been able to roll back until they resolved. Things have definitely gotten much better over time.
Wayland has also matured wonderfully and things like multi monitor setups with different refresh rates work just fine these days.
Totally get what you mean about KDE too, I really enjoy how much easy customization it has!
Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Awesome, thanks for sharing your experiences!
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What’s the issue with snaps? I’m still on Ubuntu ans abkut to switch to Debian, but for me its pretty chill atm because I don’t have to worry about updates or security. I know about the terminal aliases, which could be disclosed better, but it’s not that big of a deal to me. I thought it’s pretty cool to have a “store” that’s curated so I don’t have to worry about security, since I use Linux casually.
I’ll just repost this repost of my personal experience then:
Here’s my answer to this same question from an old thread on Reddit:
My Ubuntu system always reserved a whopping 20% of my 32GB ram for no reason and I never bothered to know why. Later I uninstalled snapd because of boot time issues and guess what happened? Only 1.5 GB used after a fresh boot.
I had like 4 different JetBrains IDEs installed via snap with each totalling around 2GB of disk space. While removing snapd I discovered it kept back 2-3 previous versions of every package on your disk.
Uninstalling this bloat was the best thing I did to my ubuntu system. It was suddenly light as a feather and way more responsive like I just did a fresh system install.
Some time later I was installing something from apt and Ubuntu tried to install it from snap, thus sneakily installing snapd in the process. Looking for a solution, I felt like I was looking up how to disable Windows updates or some other shit.
I had a moment of clarity and wondered why the fuck did I have to put up with this kinda bullshit on Linux. I wiped that drive clean and switched to Fedora.
Edit: and there’s also flatpak which-despite being awful in some ways-is better than snap in every conceivable way.
