Oh dear

While I appreciate the topological approach, I hold to a linguistic and practical reason for a hot dog, as it is usually eaten, not (typically) being a sandwich:

1. what does it mean for a thing to be “sandwiched”? It means pressed on two sides, held together by the force of that pressure.
2. what is the difference between a hot dog and a hero/po-boy/sub? Well, heros and po-boys are held together by the bread. You can turn them on their side, and they should not fall apart, because the primary force holding them together is pressure on either side of the bread. Hot dogs, at least in my limited experience, are defined by their toppings, which are placed atop the frankfurter, and held in place by gravity alone.

As such I give my typology: if the primary force holding your dish together is pressure on two sides from a retaining material? Sandwich. If the primary force holding it together is gravity? That bread is being used as a trencher. As such, most hot dogs, most tacos, bread bowls and other such things are all basically just a version of a bread bowl or bread plate. For this reason, I call them “Trenchers”. Pizza is not primarily held together by gravity or by sandwiching forces, and thus is normally neither of these. Pizza’s primary force maintaining its integrity is the cheese and other sticky things holding onto any toppings. As such, pizza would be equivalent to toast with spread, cheese, and other toppings, similar to garlic bread. All functionally just “adorned breads”.

So, to reiterate, I don’t disagree that hot dogs can be sandwiches, but in general practice, I do not believe they qualify, much like most tacos do not qualify.

i know you just googled but is that an ai hot dog

Balkan grill

So I looked this up and found a restaurant in Germany? The food looks amazing and I’m going to have to find recipes for half their menu.

So the way this discussion is going, it reminds me of an old cookbook that describes curry as “a gravy laden with spices and made with the milk of coconut.” While the description conveys the details well, I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category. The issue comes from the difference in cultural meanings and the way languages steal words. My classifications are based off the mid western American concepts of hotdog and there for would not work outside of a region familiar with it.

I guess the only good option to finally solvr this debate would be a latin taxonomy like we do for animals and plants.

no, translated

pizza is a casserole

Tacos have loose meat

Those chicken strip tacos are liars.

Of course the americans were offended the europeans had better sandwiches.

only because they hadn’t tasted good bread before. whenever i’m in non-UK europe I practically live off of sandwiches.

Naturally.

I mean, this is a common prawn sandwich from us in Sweden:

You can get them anywhere and they not only taste great, but smell fresh and lovely.

Though, I can absolutely see a reason why this should not be allowed on a plane; shellfish allergy.

An interesting thesis! Please elaborate, and then let’s discuss where the lines are between casseroles, quiches, open pies, pastry-covered pies, calzones/empanadas/gyoza and wraps/burritos

The first one? Doe not look AI to me

casseroles are jumbles held together with a binder (like egg, or cheese). some have pie crusts (on the bottom and/or top, example chicken pot pie). they are often one dish meals (the pizza pan) and often identified by their baking utensil (the pizza pan).

I mean I sometimes just eat straight bread.

it’s the lack of deformation in the bun and the mustard looking like ez cheeze that’s uncannying my valley

i used to, but then i discovered the local olive oil press and, uh, i have gained some weight.

Fair. I personally think that a pizza doesnt quite qulify, but i see the logic. By this logic, however, all pies are also casseroles. I’m OK with this. However, where does an open-faced bagel with shmear fit? Or a calzone?

You switched to just drinking olive oil?

https://oblizniprste.si/slastni-kruh/hot-dog-strucke/

Here you go. Even the recipe to make it.