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Oh Jesus he is cooked

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  • S skyezopen@lemmy.world

    He sets the correct rules for that moment

    So morals are not objective and unchanging, rather they change depending on how God feels at any particular moment. You can’t actually ground any sort of moral worldview with that belief because you can justify literally anything as long as you say God said so.

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    TrooBloo
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    This is literally the first instruction God gives Adam and Eve. Do not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Do not develop an independent sense of morality. What God says is the right thing at that time, and don’t you dare contradict him.

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    • N nikls94@lemmy.world

      That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.

      It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.

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      theyattering@lemmy.zip
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      It’s not that it’s a bad translation, they CHANGED it in the 40s to remove the pedophilia and make it homosexuality. There is actually a book in the Bible that celebrates two gay men living a happy life.

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      • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

        It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.

        Yeah, but no republican wants to hear that their favorite activity is a sin.

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        theyattering@lemmy.zip
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        That’s crazy though, because a large portion of them are also gay

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          barneypiccolo@lemmy.today
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          Still missing the point that he is free to read and believe anything he likes, but a book of ancient mythology shouldn’t have any influence at all in developing 21st century social/political policy.

          Ultimately, that is going to be the final outcome of his argument - either follow ALL the Bible’s demands, or follow none of them - but that’s too many steps for MAGAs. The answer is simple: It’s in the 1st Amendment. If they want to know more, they can go get a real education. It’s time to stop coddling these ignorant traitors.

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            “I disagree with what you say, but will contend to the death your right to say it.” / Voltaire

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            kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            “The best government is a benevolent tyranny tempered by an occasional assassination.”

            • Voltaire
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            • N nikls94@lemmy.world

              That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.

              It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.

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              D_C
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              molesting children is a sin

              Nowadays that’s a prerequisite if you want to be a republican politician.

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                gates9@sh.itjust.works
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                “I love uneducated people”

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                  softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                  • N nikls94@lemmy.world

                    That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.

                    It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.

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                    zink@programming.dev
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                    That would keep things consistent with the apparent rule that conservatives must act opposite of what the bible says.

                    First it discourages molesting kids. RNC buzzkill.

                    Then while they’re using abortion as a successful wedge issue and mechanism of control, the Bible is over here giving instructions on how to give abortions to unfaithful women.

                    Then there are so many groups to hate…

                    And SO many desperate poor people to ignore or actively push out of view…

                    I probably don’t need to go on.

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                    • T TrooBloo

                      This is literally the first instruction God gives Adam and Eve. Do not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Do not develop an independent sense of morality. What God says is the right thing at that time, and don’t you dare contradict him.

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                      skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                      And yet they could not have possibly known that eating the fruit was bad until after they did, further proving God is just a sadist.

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                        mediocre_bard@lemmy.world
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                        I didn’t know I could watch the same piece of shit get murdered twice, but here we are.

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                          nialv7@lemmy.world
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                          holy shit, stop he’s already dead, you don’t need to keep going.

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                          • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                            Yea I just watched the whole thing. One of my favorite things I’ve heard recently is people arguing if Charlie was a good debater or not.

                            One person just said “did he ever once change his mind?” There isn’t one time in the past decade he has changed his mind. Charlie was not debating.

                            What pisses me off is how their wasn’t an effort to collect material for times like this for us to repost. Sure there’s content but everybody on the left checks out and doesn’t bother to archive anything worthwhile. I think that hurts us in the end

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                            nialv7@lemmy.world
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                            Charlie was not doing debates. He was a propagandist. What he did was performing in the shape of a debate, in front of an audience to spread his agenda, and he was very good at that. If you scrutinize his “debates” in terms of logic soundness or other things good arguments would have, they don’t stand a chance. But that was not the point, nor would it matter.

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                            • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                              Charlie was not doing debates. He was a propagandist. What he did was performing in the shape of a debate, in front of an audience to spread his agenda, and he was very good at that. If you scrutinize his “debates” in terms of logic soundness or other things good arguments would have, they don’t stand a chance. But that was not the point, nor would it matter.

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                              melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                              I think his debates were actually very well done. It’s just that debates are not a good format to find truth. Charlie was one of the best at debates. Saying all that, we all should be better at being on other platforms and sniping these clips to highlight the hypocrisy and bullshit. I’m absolutely convinced that right wing groups convinced all of us to abandon all other social media so they can spread their ideas easier

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                                lootboblin@lemmy.world
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                                Ha ha!

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                                  garbagio@lemmy.zip
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                                  Cremated, even

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                                    Phoenixz
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                                    Though this is hilariously funny, this is the list basic argument against just about any religion, the cherry picking, and I’m still waiting for a fucking answer. Why doesn’t Charlie burn himself to death? I mean, I can imagine that that hole in his neck makes that hard to do for him right now, but why doesn’t he? Why doesn’t every Christian out there burn and stone themselves to death for their continuous sinning?

                                    Or if not, you know, admit that they’re plain wrong about their entire view on life?

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                                      tiger666@lemmy.ca
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                                      Charlie Kirk would have called Jesus a communist.

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                                      • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                                        I think his debates were actually very well done. It’s just that debates are not a good format to find truth. Charlie was one of the best at debates. Saying all that, we all should be better at being on other platforms and sniping these clips to highlight the hypocrisy and bullshit. I’m absolutely convinced that right wing groups convinced all of us to abandon all other social media so they can spread their ideas easier

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                                        nialv7@lemmy.world
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                                        Depends on what you think debate is, I guess. After posting my comment I did realize people probably conceptualise “debate” differently. If you think debate is just a form of performance to influence people’s ideas, then sure. But if you think debate should be a form of intellectual conversation, a collaboration between two disagreeing parties in order to find truth, then what Charlie is doing couldn’t be further from that.

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                                          “I disagree with what you say, but will contend to the death your right to say it.” / Voltaire

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                                          jomega@lemmy.world
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                                          Voltaire never said that.

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