Oh Jesus he is cooked
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That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.
It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.
Similarly a lot of the stuff about sodomy was about rape. Regardless I don’t think we should use religious texts as the basis for morals.
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It’s not really a good point, it’s just classic cherrypicking. Jesus himself said in Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” so clearly the old testament law should still apply. Christians are just faced with the reality that they could not live their life in accordance with old testament law in todays age, and have therefore chosen to ignore laws from the old testament.
Im not a Bible scholar. I have always taken the distinction between abolish and fulfill here to be, I’m not here to say the old law was wrong and so let’s get rid of it, I’m here to say we have completed the period of time for which the old law was right, and we have a new way going forward for this new time.
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No, it was actually a piano stealthily hung from a nearby rooftop, which the perpetrator cut down with some comically oversized scissors.
you know i saw the video he did go EVERYWHERE
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Pretty obvious Kirk has no education since high school. He flunked out of Harper after one semester.
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“Everyone! I just heard from sky daddy. He said you should all give me all your money. New moral imperative.”
That’s organised religion in a nutshell
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Pretty obvious Kirk has no education since high school. He flunked out of Harper after one semester.
Had no education…*
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editing videos like that is the equivalent to winning arguments in the shower
Except all the mouth breathers on the right just lap that shit up.
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He sets the correct rules for that moment
So morals are not objective and unchanging, rather they change depending on how God feels at any particular moment. You can’t actually ground any sort of moral worldview with that belief because you can justify literally anything as long as you say God said so.
This is literally the first instruction God gives Adam and Eve. Do not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Do not develop an independent sense of morality. What God says is the right thing at that time, and don’t you dare contradict him.
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That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.
It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.
It’s not that it’s a bad translation, they CHANGED it in the 40s to remove the pedophilia and make it homosexuality. There is actually a book in the Bible that celebrates two gay men living a happy life.
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It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.
Yeah, but no republican wants to hear that their favorite activity is a sin.
That’s crazy though, because a large portion of them are also gay
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Still missing the point that he is free to read and believe anything he likes, but a book of ancient mythology shouldn’t have any influence at all in developing 21st century social/political policy.
Ultimately, that is going to be the final outcome of his argument - either follow ALL the Bible’s demands, or follow none of them - but that’s too many steps for MAGAs. The answer is simple: It’s in the 1st Amendment. If they want to know more, they can go get a real education. It’s time to stop coddling these ignorant traitors.
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“I disagree with what you say, but will contend to the death your right to say it.” / Voltaire
“The best government is a benevolent tyranny tempered by an occasional assassination.”
- Voltaire
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That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.
It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.
molesting children is a sin
Nowadays that’s a prerequisite if you want to be a republican politician.
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“I love uneducated people”
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That “if a man sleeps with another man and they shall be stoned” (not a native English) verse is wrongly translated iirc. In old Hebrew there is a word that specifically means “man who is not yet an adult” - and back then you were an adult with 14 I think.
It was never about being gay is sinful, it was about molesting children being a sin.
That would keep things consistent with the apparent rule that conservatives must act opposite of what the bible says.
First it discourages molesting kids. RNC buzzkill.
Then while they’re using abortion as a successful wedge issue and mechanism of control, the Bible is over here giving instructions on how to give abortions to unfaithful women.
Then there are so many groups to hate…
And SO many desperate poor people to ignore or actively push out of view…
I probably don’t need to go on.
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This is literally the first instruction God gives Adam and Eve. Do not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Do not develop an independent sense of morality. What God says is the right thing at that time, and don’t you dare contradict him.
And yet they could not have possibly known that eating the fruit was bad until after they did, further proving God is just a sadist.
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I didn’t know I could watch the same piece of shit get murdered twice, but here we are.
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holy shit, stop he’s already dead, you don’t need to keep going.
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Yea I just watched the whole thing. One of my favorite things I’ve heard recently is people arguing if Charlie was a good debater or not.
One person just said “did he ever once change his mind?” There isn’t one time in the past decade he has changed his mind. Charlie was not debating.
What pisses me off is how their wasn’t an effort to collect material for times like this for us to repost. Sure there’s content but everybody on the left checks out and doesn’t bother to archive anything worthwhile. I think that hurts us in the end
Charlie was not doing debates. He was a propagandist. What he did was performing in the shape of a debate, in front of an audience to spread his agenda, and he was very good at that. If you scrutinize his “debates” in terms of logic soundness or other things good arguments would have, they don’t stand a chance. But that was not the point, nor would it matter.
