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I Got This Right, Right?

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  • L lemmyprnt@lemmy.world

    Parents said their son became more political

    While authorities say Robinson hasn’t been cooperating with investigators, they say his family and friends have been talking.

    Robinson’s mother told investigators that their son had turned left politically in the last year and became more supportive of gay and transgender rights after dating someone who is transgender, Gray said.

    Those decisions prompted several conversations in the household, especially between Robinson and his father. They had different political views and Robinson told his partner in a text that his dad had become a “diehard MAGA” since Trump was elected.

    Mason added that the family’s views “differed quite significantly,” and the conversations were at times controversial between parents and son.

    https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-court-death-penalty-f541df08a936e06497ee2342296bc398

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    tempest@lemmy.ca
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    Thank you.

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    • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

      He was born and raised in a Christian conservative family. In a religious conservative state.

      The origin story of many gay people or future political leftists.

      Gay hate can only really exist in an environment without gay people, same thing for people who hate trans people.

      Assertion. It’s like saying you can’t hate men unless you grow up in a society without them. People hate all kinds of people for all kinds of reason. This argument doesn’t work.

      Which hate comment are you talking about?

      He said Kirk was spreading hate.

      I believe there’s a lot of conservatives out there who would be willing to kill someone on their same side for not being extreme enough.

      What you believe has nothing to do with what is true. There is no evidence that he thought Kirk wasnt extreme enough. In fact his hate comment indicates it could be the opposite. (e.g. that he saw Kirk as a Nazi that needed to be killed)

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      deaf_fish
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      Holy poop you are coming on wrong and hard. I don’t know if the shooter conservative or not, but you desperately don’t want him to be. Probably because it would look bad for you if he was.

      You’re not interested in the truth, just a narrative.

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      • T tangledhyphae@lemmy.world

        It’s interesting that tens of millions of people know the truth of him being a radical far-left homicidal maniac, but the few thousand people here continue to circlejerk over lies. I really expected better from lemmy. Oh well, it is what it is.

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        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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        The only evidence of this I’ve seen is that his roommate might have been trans, and we all know being in the same room as a trans person makes you a radical left maniac.

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        • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

          I mean his DNA was found on the gun, there’s a slew of text messages, handwritten notes, and video evidence showing that it was him, but I suppose a Republican could have broken into his house, stolen his DNA, planted incriminating messages, and borrowed his clothing. At this point we really just don’t know, anything is possible.

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          HighlandCow
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          Ok fair enough I honestly wasnt away of that information yet

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          • N n0respect@lemmy.world

            To nitpick, the handwritten note under the keyboard got destroyed. So there isn’t any any more.

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            HighlandCow
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            Thank you for that extra context

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            • T tangledhyphae@lemmy.world

              It’s interesting that tens of millions of people know the truth of him being a radical far-left homicidal maniac, but the few thousand people here continue to circlejerk over lies. I really expected better from lemmy. Oh well, it is what it is.

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              buttnugget@lemmy.world
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              Can you be specific about what you mean by “radical far left”? Obviously we all agree that he’s a homicidal maniac, because he assassinated a person in public, but I don’t wanna just jump on the downvote bandwagon without hearing you out. What makes him a decent person?

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              • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM mojofrododojo@lemmy.world

                do you have a single shred of evidence?

                where do they go to sign up, antifa.org?

                Hard to coordinate with something that doesn’t exist.

                indeed; but you’ve figured it all out apparently, so drop the wisdom. how is ‘the left’ coordinating via ‘antifa’ to break the law?

                also, what’s wrong with anti fascism? everyone should be anti fascism, unless you’re a goose stepping fascist cocksucker.

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                theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world
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                Antifa is a loosely organized group of like minded individuals. There is no official membership, it’s an ideology welcome to any who share this world view. They develop tactics to intimidate and silence their opponents and help each other cover illegal and immoral behavior. This can be hitting people in the head with bike locks, throwing cups full of cement, lighting buildings on fire, and other destructive behavior. They wear black bloc and cover their faces so as not to be easily identifiable. They claim to be the good guys “fighting Nazis”, but really they’re a bunch of thuggish larpers with social behavior conditions and a lack of morals. I have hours and hours of video footage of Antifa individuals perpetrating violent and destructive acts against those they disagree with. They lean heavily into the untrue sentiment that they aren’t an organization as it allows them to side step any kind of legal accountability. In reality they operate sort of like sleeper cells in different regions protesting, rioting, stoking the flames to silence their political opponents. They’re scum.

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                  #145

                  The funny thing is you can rotate things around “right” -> “left” and it will still be valid

                  Lemmy can’t stop bitching about right, it’s honestly funny

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                  • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                    We can agree that the right wing is trying to use Kirk’s death as casus belli to start a civil war against us. We are in a dangerous position right now.

                    But at the same time we can also choose to NOT spread misinformation like this. No, we don’t know right now what political leaning the killer has. If anything, if the evidences released by the investigation can be trusted, he is more likely to be left leaning.

                    Yes, the right spreads misinformation all the time to further their goals. But I think we can do better.

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                    Everyone spreads misinformation to further their goals. It’s just not so obvious when it’s your side doing it. Confirmation bias

                    It’s not just the political right

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                      cis guy dating a trans woman is not “gay”. he may himself identify as queer or bisexual but we don’t have to misgender his girlfriend out of a desire to play up his purported right wingedness.

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                      According to you, homosexuality is only about gender, not sex. This isn’t right and there is no consensus as far as I know. I would personally say a cis guy dating a trans woman is gay

                      gender and sex are not the same, for the 100th time

                      You’re the one inventing misgendering here

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                        Antifa is a loosely organized group of like minded individuals. There is no official membership, it’s an ideology welcome to any who share this world view. They develop tactics to intimidate and silence their opponents and help each other cover illegal and immoral behavior. This can be hitting people in the head with bike locks, throwing cups full of cement, lighting buildings on fire, and other destructive behavior. They wear black bloc and cover their faces so as not to be easily identifiable. They claim to be the good guys “fighting Nazis”, but really they’re a bunch of thuggish larpers with social behavior conditions and a lack of morals. I have hours and hours of video footage of Antifa individuals perpetrating violent and destructive acts against those they disagree with. They lean heavily into the untrue sentiment that they aren’t an organization as it allows them to side step any kind of legal accountability. In reality they operate sort of like sleeper cells in different regions protesting, rioting, stoking the flames to silence their political opponents. They’re scum.

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                        mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                        Proud boys, 3%s and Groypers more your speed?

                        when I think about thuggish larpers, that’s who comes to mind. violent and destructive acts - like j6?

                        if there’s an organization, please, out it, be my guest. do you think you’re the first sharp mind that’s tried to crack this nut?

                        that maybe, it’s not a giant machination, that simply there are many, many people violently upset with everything from BLM to outright fascism in the streets with ICE?

                        hrmm…

                        no, scum paraded through the streets screaming jews will not replace us.

                        that’s scum. fascist scum.

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                        • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

                          His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he “Had enough of Kirks hatred” in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

                          https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

                          How is any of this right wing?

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                          ronl2k@lemmy.world
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                          How is any of this right wing?

                          Plenty of trans people are right-wing Trumpers. Some of them are quite popular with plenty of videos on YouTube.

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                            According to you, homosexuality is only about gender, not sex. This isn’t right and there is no consensus as far as I know. I would personally say a cis guy dating a trans woman is gay

                            gender and sex are not the same, for the 100th time

                            You’re the one inventing misgendering here

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                            After a bit of research, it seems like it aims towards being based on gender and not sex, hmm. I might be wrong on this one?

                            I believe I might think it’s about sex because I wouldn’t be interested in a non cisgender person, but that might only be me? I had the feeling that most heterosexual people would not be interested in trans people

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                              The funny thing is you can rotate things around “right” -> “left” and it will still be valid

                              Lemmy can’t stop bitching about right, it’s honestly funny

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                              polysexualstick@lemmy.world
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                              That’s not what happened though, is it? Where and when did this situation you are alluding to happen?

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                                According to you, homosexuality is only about gender, not sex. This isn’t right and there is no consensus as far as I know. I would personally say a cis guy dating a trans woman is gay

                                gender and sex are not the same, for the 100th time

                                You’re the one inventing misgendering here

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                                lemzlez@lemmy.world
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                                Attraction isn’t really exclusively based on sex, though. It’s about a whole range of factors, including how someone presents their personality and their physical traits. Many trans women have a lot of traits people find attractive in women generally, so being attracted to a trans woman is consistent with heterosexual attraction.

                                This means that liking trans women doesn’t automatically mean you’re attracted to men, so calling it gay is an oversimplification of how attraction works.

                                You could argue that in a strictly biological sense it is homosexual, but that ignores a whole range of social factors, which isn’t really how the term “gay” is colloquially used.

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                                  Holy poop you are coming on wrong and hard. I don’t know if the shooter conservative or not, but you desperately don’t want him to be. Probably because it would look bad for you if he was.

                                  You’re not interested in the truth, just a narrative.

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                                  manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                                  I’m challenging the certainty of this entire site. My personal opinion is that he is a broken product of a nihilistic culture. I also think that he hated Charlie because he thought Charlie hated gays even though he was a big tent conservative that was inclusive for all. What people don’t understand is that Kirk WAS the moderate conservative.

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                                  • R ronl2k@lemmy.world

                                    How is any of this right wing?

                                    Plenty of trans people are right-wing Trumpers. Some of them are quite popular with plenty of videos on YouTube.

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                                    manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                                    There are also plenty (arguably way more) that are lefties that hate Trump’s guts. What’s your point?

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                                    • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

                                      I’m challenging the certainty of this entire site. My personal opinion is that he is a broken product of a nihilistic culture. I also think that he hated Charlie because he thought Charlie hated gays even though he was a big tent conservative that was inclusive for all. What people don’t understand is that Kirk WAS the moderate conservative.

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                                      deaf_fish
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                                      ~~Kirk was definitionally a fascist.

                                      As for what the shooter is, I’m sure time will tell. I don’t see a need to jump to conclusions on that yet.~~

                                      Edit: duplicate post due to lag. Please ignore

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                                      • M manmoth@lemmy.ml

                                        I’m challenging the certainty of this entire site. My personal opinion is that he is a broken product of a nihilistic culture. I also think that he hated Charlie because he thought Charlie hated gays even though he was a big tent conservative that was inclusive for all. What people don’t understand is that Kirk WAS the moderate conservative.

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                                        deaf_fish
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                                        Kirk was definitionally a fascist.

                                        As for what the shooter is, I’m sure time will tell. I don’t see a need to jump to conclusions on that yet.

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                                        • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

                                          What evidence? So far, none of it says he is a left winger. Everything we do know points to a MAGA family and village of similar idiots with violent tendencies and a gun-loving way of life.

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                                          lemmyprnt@lemmy.world
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                                          “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

                                          Robinson’s mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro–gay and trans–rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, especially between Robinson and his father, who had very different political views.

                                          You people are fucking dipshits.

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