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  • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC carbonicedragon@pawb.social

    To be fair, everyone’s views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it’s quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn’t really how people work.

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    dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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    The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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    • MichaelM Michael

      Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing “news” organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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      dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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      They haven’t been on russias payroll for years.

      They genuinely believe the shit they swill. By and large the paid agents were 5 to 10 years ago.

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      • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

        They haven’t been on russias payroll for years.

        They genuinely believe the shit they swill. By and large the paid agents were 5 to 10 years ago.

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        Michael
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        #30

        But are these people funded by right-wing organizations? I understand some are still active.

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          fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Damn… I’m desperate, but even I wouldn’t suck that

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            doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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            This is true. Also there are zero mainstream media outlets that are not propaganda of some kind or another at this point. When you intentionally read all kinds of biased news it becomes more and more obvious.

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            • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

              The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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              provablegecko@lemmy.world
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              Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

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              • S sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz

                You’re not wrong. I like to think I’m immune to proponganda because I’m anarchist but it’s pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power

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                safesyrup@feddit.org
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                My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.

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                  ileftreddit@lemmy.world
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                  Russia and China have been manipulating discourse in the US since 2016; and American media is happy to let them.

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                  • MichaelM Michael

                    Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing “news” organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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                    prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Yeah, I don’t think they need to be on Russia’s payroll anymore. They’re in deep.

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                      21Cabbage
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                      I’m against the corporate elite which is why I parrot the media they stuff in my face!

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                      • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

                        The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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                        appletea@lemmy.zip
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                        No other country has done as much? We’re gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!

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                        • P provablegecko@lemmy.world

                          Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

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                          krunklom@lemmy.zip
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                          You understand the difference between a medium and the content on that medium right?

                          That’s a rhetorical question since you clearly don’t.

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                          • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            Yeah, I don’t think they need to be on Russia’s payroll anymore. They’re in deep.

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                            Michael
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                            How is Russia controlling their talking points now? I’m responding to the OP’s meme. Is everybody on the right threatened, blackmailed, or are otherwise under duress? We know they aren’t the most intelligent bunch, but they are being traitors for their own reasons - for the most part.

                            The major talking points mostly came from the aforementioned organizations and outlets even when some of these people were being paid.

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                            • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC carbonicedragon@pawb.social

                              To be fair, everyone’s views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it’s quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn’t really how people work.

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                              photonic@lemmy.world
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                              While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some others are relatively harmless.

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                              • MichaelM Michael

                                Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing “news” organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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                                denjin@feddit.uk
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                                What’s so insidious about russia’s psiop over the last few decades is that all they’ve done is gently nudge the dial. They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions, they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

                                And if you think “haha stupid MAGAs” falling for propaganda, I got news for you buddy, you’ve fallen for it too.

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                                  korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                                  Same statement from me, very different result. Death to fascists!

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                                    alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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                                    THE LARGEST MOST COMMONLY WATCHED BEST FUNDED MEDIA OUTLET ISNT MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!1!

                                    😡

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                                    • D denjin@feddit.uk

                                      What’s so insidious about russia’s psiop over the last few decades is that all they’ve done is gently nudge the dial. They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions, they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

                                      And if you think “haha stupid MAGAs” falling for propaganda, I got news for you buddy, you’ve fallen for it too.

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                                      You’ve fallen for propaganda that convinces you that there is an external enemy to worry about instead of actually looking at the situation critically. Right-wing organizations drive right-wing talking points.

                                      They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions

                                      Pretty sure they did that to themselves. I didn’t need Russia feeding me propaganda to see through the bullshit, and many others reached that conclusion on their own. The Fairness Doctrine being repealed is one big reason why traditional media failed. Russia didn’t do that.

                                      they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

                                      Right-wingers and liberals alike have polarized discourse. Leftists aren’t innocent either, especially MLs (many of whom seem to be biased towards Russia), but there are plenty of leftists I have interacted with or witnessed that are exceedingly fair, empathetic, and human.

                                      Liberals blame anybody to the left of them for not falling in line, constantly mock or berate them for demanding better, and do absolutely nothing meaningful to improve their preferred party or seriously advocate for greatly improving the human condition in America. As for the right, we all know what they do.

                                      middle ground has evaporated.

                                      Politics and governance shouldn’t be a game of tug of war where the Republicans have a monster truck pulling their side and Democrats are pretending to hold the rope on their side. It shouldn’t be a tug of war game at all - that is what breeds polarization. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that a two-party system and biased, partisan “news” (that is literally entertainment) results in polarization.

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                                      • MichaelM Michael

                                        How is Russia controlling their talking points now? I’m responding to the OP’s meme. Is everybody on the right threatened, blackmailed, or are otherwise under duress? We know they aren’t the most intelligent bunch, but they are being traitors for their own reasons - for the most part.

                                        The major talking points mostly came from the aforementioned organizations and outlets even when some of these people were being paid.

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                                        prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Huh? My point was that the people are pushing the insane bullshit on their own accord now because they believe it

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                                        • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                          Huh? My point was that the people are pushing the insane bullshit on their own accord now because they believe it

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                                          What are some major talking points that Russia seeded in their heads that persist to this day or overtly inspire some of the right-wing talking points we presently see? The people on the right are pro-American in their minds - many likely believe they are more pro-American than anybody else.

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