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  • MichaelM Michael

    Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing ā€œnewsā€ organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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    phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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    If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia. Not solely but enough to make them bigger than they’d be otherwise.

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    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

      whipping out my Horseshoe Theory graph

      So, as you can see, the tips of the horseshoe are where the Russian Propaganda lives.

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      rockerfacešŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦
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      I prefer the Pac-Man interpretation

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      • P phdepressed@sh.itjust.works

        If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia. Not solely but enough to make them bigger than they’d be otherwise.

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        Michael
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        If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia.

        You seem to know more than me based on your response. You are claiming an amazing amount are funded by Russia, are there any decently recent sources which support your claim that you can direct me to? Do these people also take money from US-based right-wing organizations?

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        • R renzev@lemmy.world

          I personally like to listen to both sides of the story so that I can absorb 2x the disinformation

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          affenlehrer@feddit.org
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          #26

          They cancel each other out if you’re lucky

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          • A affenlehrer@feddit.org

            They cancel each other out if you’re lucky

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            renzev@lemmy.world
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            It depends on the phase. Sometimes you get constructive interference and they add up instead.

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            • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC carbonicedragon@pawb.social

              To be fair, everyone’s views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it’s quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn’t really how people work.

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              dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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              The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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              • MichaelM Michael

                Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing ā€œnewsā€ organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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                dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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                They haven’t been on russias payroll for years.

                They genuinely believe the shit they swill. By and large the paid agents were 5 to 10 years ago.

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                • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

                  They haven’t been on russias payroll for years.

                  They genuinely believe the shit they swill. By and large the paid agents were 5 to 10 years ago.

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                  wrote last edited by m1ch431@slrpnk.net
                  #30

                  But are these people funded by right-wing organizations? I understand some are still active.

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                    fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Damn… I’m desperate, but even I wouldn’t suck that

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                      doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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                      This is true. Also there are zero mainstream media outlets that are not propaganda of some kind or another at this point. When you intentionally read all kinds of biased news it becomes more and more obvious.

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                      • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

                        The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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                        provablegecko@lemmy.world
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                        Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

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                        • S sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz

                          You’re not wrong. I like to think I’m immune to proponganda because I’m anarchist but it’s pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power

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                          safesyrup@feddit.org
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                          My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.

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                            ileftreddit@lemmy.world
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                            Russia and China have been manipulating discourse in the US since 2016; and American media is happy to let them.

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                            • MichaelM Michael

                              Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing ā€œnewsā€ organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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                              prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              Yeah, I don’t think they need to be on Russia’s payroll anymore. They’re in deep.

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                                21Cabbage
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                                I’m against the corporate elite which is why I parrot the media they stuff in my face!

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                                • D dicjacobus@lemmy.world

                                  The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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                                  appletea@lemmy.zip
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                                  No other country has done as much? We’re gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!

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                                  • P provablegecko@lemmy.world

                                    Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

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                                    krunklom@lemmy.zip
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                                    You understand the difference between a medium and the content on that medium right?

                                    That’s a rhetorical question since you clearly don’t.

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                                    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Yeah, I don’t think they need to be on Russia’s payroll anymore. They’re in deep.

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                                      Michael
                                      wrote last edited by m1ch431@slrpnk.net
                                      #40

                                      How is Russia controlling their talking points now? I’m responding to the OP’s meme. Is everybody on the right threatened, blackmailed, or are otherwise under duress? We know they aren’t the most intelligent bunch, but they are being traitors for their own reasons - for the most part.

                                      The major talking points mostly came from the aforementioned organizations and outlets even when some of these people were being paid.

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                                      • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC carbonicedragon@pawb.social

                                        To be fair, everyone’s views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it’s quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn’t really how people work.

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                                        photonic@lemmy.world
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                                        While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some others are relatively harmless.

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                                        • MichaelM Michael

                                          Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing ā€œnewsā€ organizations. It’s totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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                                          denjin@feddit.uk
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                                          What’s so insidious about russia’s psiop over the last few decades is that all they’ve done is gently nudge the dial. They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions, they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

                                          And if you think ā€œhaha stupid MAGAsā€ falling for propaganda, I got news for you buddy, you’ve fallen for it too.

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