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  • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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    maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world
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    “Almost bricks their machine” lol

    It’s not an iphone, breaking the boot sequence won’t brick it. But sure, go ahead, lecture everyone else…

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    • K make -j8

      I ve been running SUSE for 3years now, it never broke; when I wqs unhappy with an update O rolles back. This is the chilliest distro in my opinion after trying Mint(2 years) and Debian (2years)

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      cub Gucci
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      Idk, maybe? It was a real experience like this:

      1. I install system

      2. I have a screen that prompts me to login either as a root or as a user.

      3. I login as a root just because I was to install a lot of software.

      4. I have a black screen and the forums recommend me installing the system again.


      It was waaaay before you started using Linux, maybe 10 years ago?

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      • D droggelbecher@lemmy.world

        I fucking love Ubuntu. Have been on it for about 5 years now. It just works AND doesn’t spy or advertise. Nobody has ever been able to convince me it gets better than that. I don’t need stuff to be difficult to prove to myself I’m smart.

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        mehblah@lemmy.world
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        They hate snaps but love flatpack or some other container. I don’t get it and they love to trot out some example of Ubuntu being bad that has never applied to me. I have tried other distros but none seem as glitch free as Ubuntu. I run Ubuntu mate on the Raspberry Pis I have here and there. They don’t run xrdp all the time. Just when I need a remote desktop. I run Debian on my servers since I quit CentOS when IBM killed CentOS 8. Just today I read where IBM is Taking over some aspects of Red Hat. How long before they kill Fedora by shutting down Fedora users access to the Repositories. Fedora is Red Hat with a bunch of sucker…er developers contributing.

        https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/09/09/0039236/red-hat-back-office-team-moving-to-ibm-from-2026

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        • O overload@sopuli.xyz

          I see it’s just recently been announced about the beta. Great that they’re hearing up for release. I’m in support of what they’re doing I think I realised that I didn’t like Gnome (neither does System76 by the looks!).

          OpenSUSE TW with KDE is perfect for me. Not a sexy/flashy distro but it is the most robust rolling release I’ve seen, and maintained by a European company that has been working on it for decades.

          Particularly like the QC/staggered addition of packages and YAST.

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          deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #79

          Love me some SUSE. People forget that it is one of the OG distributions out there. Been trying Linux from time to time but only switched completely from windows earlier this year. Been messing with Fedora and SUSE way back as a teenager. Unfortunately my experience with opensuse was laggy YouTube on a complete fresh install (AMD btw) so I just switched to cachyos which didn’t have any issues (sooo much better than Manjaro IMHO). Still love SUSE… And fedora. These two will always have a place in my tech heart.

          Edit for typos from typing on glass.

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          • M maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world

            “Almost bricks their machine” lol

            It’s not an iphone, breaking the boot sequence won’t brick it. But sure, go ahead, lecture everyone else…

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            voodooattack@lemmy.world
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            #80

            If you delete /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/* you can brick your motherboard. If it doesn’t have a recovery mode of some kind then it will be permanently bricked.

            https://www.phoronix.com/news/UEFI-rm-root-directory

            Edit: most modern hardware comes with protections against this nowadays though

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            • M maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world

              I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

              Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

              There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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              da_cow (she/her)
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              Sadly I dont have this Copypasta where someone explains to an Arch purist why his Distros is just Linux.

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              • M missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de

                between Gentoo and Arch, but so far down the y-axis it clipped off the chart.

                t. masochistic NixOS user

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                da_cow (she/her)
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                Or it comes as a second low with an even higher peak at the end.

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                • C chronotron@lemmy.world

                  The only distro I’ve ever used is arch.

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                  krompus@lemmy.world
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                  I hopped around until I found Arch, and it has been rock solid, first time an OS has lasted ten years without needing a reinstall. Windows has never lasted more than two years without shitting itself.

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                  • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                    tattorack@lemmy.world
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                    I seem to have skipped most of it.

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                    • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.comD deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      Love me some SUSE. People forget that it is one of the OG distributions out there. Been trying Linux from time to time but only switched completely from windows earlier this year. Been messing with Fedora and SUSE way back as a teenager. Unfortunately my experience with opensuse was laggy YouTube on a complete fresh install (AMD btw) so I just switched to cachyos which didn’t have any issues (sooo much better than Manjaro IMHO). Still love SUSE… And fedora. These two will always have a place in my tech heart.

                      Edit for typos from typing on glass.

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                      overload@sopuli.xyz
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                      #85

                      Nice one, Fedora I’ve been keen to check out. it seems similar to SUSE albeit with a different package manager and no Yast. I respect a quality controlled rolling release.

                      How’s cachyOS? I’m very wary of the AUR/Arch generally. There must be so many unmaintained packages on there.

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                        Or it comes as a second low with an even higher peak at the end.

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                        missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de
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                        #86

                        yeah! there’s a punishing learning curve but it’s sooo frikkin powerful once you get it. for my NixOS config on WSL2, I have it cross-compile age-plugin-yubikey for Windows, then stuff the (absolute) path in a wrapper script to use agenix with passage as a git-credential-helper storage, all of which gets set up using home-manager as my default git config. and it all just gets automatically built and configured when I nixos-rebuild switch, so I can sync it to my other machines.

                        unfortunately I have no idea how it works anymore lol. that’s the problem, it’s so resilient I forget how to change it! but I can’t imagine doing that in any other Linux distro.

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                        • O overload@sopuli.xyz

                          Nice one, Fedora I’ve been keen to check out. it seems similar to SUSE albeit with a different package manager and no Yast. I respect a quality controlled rolling release.

                          How’s cachyOS? I’m very wary of the AUR/Arch generally. There must be so many unmaintained packages on there.

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                          deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Yast is great but I honestly don’t find it all that useful nowadays. Feels to me like most of that configuration can be done through KDE anyway. Still, great piece of software, might just not fit my current needs.

                          CachyOS, Manjaro and endeavour OS are all Arch. The main selling point for cachy is the ease of use when installing “stuff for gaming” e.g. gfx drivers and their custom compiled kernels and software packages (basically just other builds of packages on the Arch repo) have been optimized for newer generations of CPUs. Light weight, heavily optimized, customizable. Lots of small optimizations here and there. You can do the same on Arch but I don’t want to bother. I know what do to and how to, but been there done that.

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                          • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                            Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                            vaionko@sopuli.xyz
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                            I went Kububtu -> Pop -> Arch with Sway -> Fedora KDE -> Arch again, now with KDE. I like Arch, been using it for years now and no interest of switching.

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                            • V cub Gucci

                              Idk, maybe? It was a real experience like this:

                              1. I install system

                              2. I have a screen that prompts me to login either as a root or as a user.

                              3. I login as a root just because I was to install a lot of software.

                              4. I have a black screen and the forums recommend me installing the system again.


                              It was waaaay before you started using Linux, maybe 10 years ago?

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                              make -j8
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                              #89

                              Oh. Well maybe it wasn’t that polished? Yeah i had totally different experience

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                              • V voodooattack@lemmy.world

                                Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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                                0ddysseus@lemmy.world
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                                Twelve years in, cloud engineer, have Mint on all my home machines cos i dont have to think about it.
                                I like your chart but its dumb.

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                                • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.comD deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  Yast is great but I honestly don’t find it all that useful nowadays. Feels to me like most of that configuration can be done through KDE anyway. Still, great piece of software, might just not fit my current needs.

                                  CachyOS, Manjaro and endeavour OS are all Arch. The main selling point for cachy is the ease of use when installing “stuff for gaming” e.g. gfx drivers and their custom compiled kernels and software packages (basically just other builds of packages on the Arch repo) have been optimized for newer generations of CPUs. Light weight, heavily optimized, customizable. Lots of small optimizations here and there. You can do the same on Arch but I don’t want to bother. I know what do to and how to, but been there done that.

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                                  overload@sopuli.xyz
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                                  Yeah TBH Yast is more of a GUI for accessing the backend settings when I can’t be bothered looking up cli commands, but nice to have.

                                  Ah, CachyOS being gaming oriented makes sense.
                                  My dream rig is a SteamOS 9070XT build so I can have quick resume on the PC. I thought Bazzite could do that game mode setting, so was considering that as the eventual next PC.

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