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  4. This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that

This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that

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  • Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
    Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

    This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that.
    I wonder if there is any data analysis of this, e.g. calculating a gini score of follower counts of a bluesky sample vs. a mastodon.social sample?

    #fediverse #statistics #UX

    Jan DS Spark Purcell (they/them)A Julian FietkauJ S 4 Replies Last reply
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      RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

      This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that.
      I wonder if there is any data analysis of this, e.g. calculating a gini score of follower counts of a bluesky sample vs. a mastodon.social sample?

      #fediverse #statistics #UX

      Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
      Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
      Jan D
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      Maybe using the methods from this paper https://wikiworkshop.org/2025/paper/wikiworkshop_2025_paper_33.pdf on translation imbalances between wikipedias.

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        RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

        This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that.
        I wonder if there is any data analysis of this, e.g. calculating a gini score of follower counts of a bluesky sample vs. a mastodon.social sample?

        #fediverse #statistics #UX

        Spark Purcell (they/them)A This user is from outside of this forum
        Spark Purcell (they/them)A This user is from outside of this forum
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        @simulo Do you analyze your real life friend circle like this?

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          @simulo Do you analyze your real life friend circle like this?

          Spark Purcell (they/them)A This user is from outside of this forum
          Spark Purcell (they/them)A This user is from outside of this forum
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          @simulo "social media" as corp sites understand the term, isn't truly social

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            RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

            This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that.
            I wonder if there is any data analysis of this, e.g. calculating a gini score of follower counts of a bluesky sample vs. a mastodon.social sample?

            #fediverse #statistics #UX

            Julian FietkauJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Julian FietkauJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @simulo I just supervised a bachelor thesis on that topic, if you feel like giving it a skim: https://fietkau.science/teaching#bsc_szepielewicz

            Results seemed mostly inconclusive, might need cooperation with someone deeper in the quant world than me to refine.

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            • Julian FietkauJ Julian Fietkau

              @simulo I just supervised a bachelor thesis on that topic, if you feel like giving it a skim: https://fietkau.science/teaching#bsc_szepielewicz

              Results seemed mostly inconclusive, might need cooperation with someone deeper in the quant world than me to refine.

              Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
              Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @julian thanks! These are interesting and – for me – unexpected results.

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              • Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
                Jan DS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Lightfighter
                > There is a huge difference in the qualities of these options.
                I agree.
                My interest was in potential assymmetries of reaching others, not in assuming that "engagement" or some kinds of it are good – thus the suggestion to look at follower counts.

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                • Jan DS Jan D

                  @Lightfighter
                  > There is a huge difference in the qualities of these options.
                  I agree.
                  My interest was in potential assymmetries of reaching others, not in assuming that "engagement" or some kinds of it are good – thus the suggestion to look at follower counts.

                  LightfighterL This user is from outside of this forum
                  LightfighterL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @simulo I'm not a statistician by any means, it just seems that trying to quantify qualities might not aid understanding. I could be completely off base.

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                    RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

                    This post sparked a lot of discussion and some of the more thoughtful responses pointed out that social media is often used get engagement without entering a dialog and that mastodon does not foster that.
                    I wonder if there is any data analysis of this, e.g. calculating a gini score of follower counts of a bluesky sample vs. a mastodon.social sample?

                    #fediverse #statistics #UX

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                    S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @simulo my impression is that most engagement across social media is bots, for either 1) getting the 10 leads from a million engagements monetization strategy, or 2) pushing propaganda from some viewpoint, and that for mastodon, its just not bot friendly in the same way, thankfully, maybe due to the moderation and structural choices.

                    There is still a real problem for finding a funding mechanism for services like quality news that isn't ad or data harvesting based.

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