Which stage are you at?
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Nice one, Fedora I’ve been keen to check out. it seems similar to SUSE albeit with a different package manager and no Yast. I respect a quality controlled rolling release.
How’s cachyOS? I’m very wary of the AUR/Arch generally. There must be so many unmaintained packages on there.
Yast is great but I honestly don’t find it all that useful nowadays. Feels to me like most of that configuration can be done through KDE anyway. Still, great piece of software, might just not fit my current needs.
CachyOS, Manjaro and endeavour OS are all Arch. The main selling point for cachy is the ease of use when installing “stuff for gaming” e.g. gfx drivers and their custom compiled kernels and software packages (basically just other builds of packages on the Arch repo) have been optimized for newer generations of CPUs. Light weight, heavily optimized, customizable. Lots of small optimizations here and there. You can do the same on Arch but I don’t want to bother. I know what do to and how to, but been there done that.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I went Kububtu -> Pop -> Arch with Sway -> Fedora KDE -> Arch again, now with KDE. I like Arch, been using it for years now and no interest of switching.
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Idk, maybe? It was a real experience like this:
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I install system
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I have a screen that prompts me to login either as a root or as a user.
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I login as a root just because I was to install a lot of software.
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I have a black screen and the forums recommend me installing the system again.
It was waaaay before you started using Linux, maybe 10 years ago?
Oh. Well maybe it wasn’t that polished? Yeah i had totally different experience
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Twelve years in, cloud engineer, have Mint on all my home machines cos i dont have to think about it.
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Yast is great but I honestly don’t find it all that useful nowadays. Feels to me like most of that configuration can be done through KDE anyway. Still, great piece of software, might just not fit my current needs.
CachyOS, Manjaro and endeavour OS are all Arch. The main selling point for cachy is the ease of use when installing “stuff for gaming” e.g. gfx drivers and their custom compiled kernels and software packages (basically just other builds of packages on the Arch repo) have been optimized for newer generations of CPUs. Light weight, heavily optimized, customizable. Lots of small optimizations here and there. You can do the same on Arch but I don’t want to bother. I know what do to and how to, but been there done that.
Yeah TBH Yast is more of a GUI for accessing the backend settings when I can’t be bothered looking up cli commands, but nice to have.
Ah, CachyOS being gaming oriented makes sense.
My dream rig is a SteamOS 9070XT build so I can have quick resume on the PC. I thought Bazzite could do that game mode setting, so was considering that as the eventual next PC. -
Sadly I dont have this Copypasta where someone explains to an Arch purist why his Distros is just Linux.
I’ve seen the one with Alpine mentioned, but never Arch
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I’ve seen the one with Alpine mentioned, but never Arch
It may have been with Alpine Linux. It has been a while since I saw it the last time.
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Exactly.
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Yeah TBH Yast is more of a GUI for accessing the backend settings when I can’t be bothered looking up cli commands, but nice to have.
Ah, CachyOS being gaming oriented makes sense.
My dream rig is a SteamOS 9070XT build so I can have quick resume on the PC. I thought Bazzite could do that game mode setting, so was considering that as the eventual next PC.Not gaming focus as such, but the optimization of kernel and packages, tweaks and use of the BORE scheduler gives some performance boost. Tests show this. This of course is good for gaming but they also have a great wiki on setting up for gaming and includes some config/setup scripts that makes it a little easier to set up, e.g. cachy versioner of Proton.
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I assume Hannah Montana Linux is off the chart to the right
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Fedora is indeed mostly backed by a for-profit company, always was.
Pretty much every successful FOSS project is funded by for-profits, but that doesn’t change the fact non-profit companies have completely different goals and obligations.
Not sure about the rest of the rant
That explains why you think people don’t use Ubuntu because it’s for noobs. They’re undoubtedly the scummiest distro since Novell-SUSE.
Where did you get my claims about Ubuntu from? I didn’t write a word about Canonical bro.
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I want to see a graph where X ranges from “ambitious” to “I’m so tired”, and Mint is at the end. That’s where I’m at.
Linux experts vastly overestimate the amount of annoyance average people will put up with. Most people just want it to work, and want to learn almost nothing. I don’t blame them, Linux is a means to an end.
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Where did you get my claims about Ubuntu from? I didn’t write a word about Canonical bro.
Where did you get my claims about Ubuntu from?
You joined a comment chain about Fedora and Ubuntu, so…
I didn’t write a word about Canonical bro.
Thought you’re the other dude
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You mean because manjaro packages are older than arch right?
My understanding is that Endevouros just uses the same repos as arch while manjaro delays the package releases for testing, so the packages you get on Endevouros are essentially the same as arch but the same can’t be said of manjaro.
Yeah, endeavouros repos just include their installers and setup tools. The OS uses arch repos.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Facts on Suse there
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Meh, everyone who goes SUSE never goes back, I dub the phenomenon the SUSE-Hole
