Which stage are you at?
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Anybody who calls Linux “GNU/Linux” is rightfully at the bottom of both axes
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
so am at CachyOS (i will say for EndeavourOS cause its also based on Arch,installed on my gaming rig) and Debian + Armbian (on my PI5)
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I like to think I’m the right-most Fedora, but some days I’m for sure the other Fedora.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
@voodooattack no, guru will create own distro
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
30 years of using Linux and I think this chart is whack. RPM based distros run by enterpises are the worst. I was happier with Slackware than Fedora.
I only use those when work forces me too and after the CentOS and SLES fiascos - F that noise. I’ll only recommend debian for work servers unless there are STIG/FedRAMP security requirements and then it’s begrudgingly over to Ubuntu.When work isn’t in the way: EndeavourOS on my desktop, Debian on my servers, and debian/alpine for my containers or better yet; golang and scratch.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
I started from Ubuntu. Now I use Mint.
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I did my first ever Linux install on a new build last year. I chose Mint, and the process was very smooth with only a few minor bumps getting up to date drivers for my newish AMD GPU. Since then I’ve grown increasingly annoyed by how limited GNOME applications are in general while also gaining increasing respect for the amount of functionality packed into KDE applications. So I’ve been shopping around for a KDE distribution. Fedora and openSUSE keep coming up, and I think I’ll be trying openSUSE soon. So I guess I’ll be skipping from the bottom left all the way to the top right.
Mint was my first serious move to Linux too! It’s so user friendly and clean.
I’ve been running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with an Nvidia GPU for quite a few years now on my gaming / 3D art rig though, and I’ve really enjoyed it. My Win10 partition has been dormant and shrunk for a very long time.
Just make sure you stick with the default of using BTRFS at least on root, to get that snapshot rollback support!
For being such an up to date distro, it’s ridiculously stable. Usually issues I’ve had have been Nvidia problems, but I’ve been able to roll back until they resolved. Things have definitely gotten much better over time.
Wayland has also matured wonderfully and things like multi monitor setups with different refresh rates work just fine these days.
Totally get what you mean about KDE too, I really enjoy how much easy customization it has!
Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
The only distro I’ve ever used is arch.
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Mint was my first serious move to Linux too! It’s so user friendly and clean.
I’ve been running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with an Nvidia GPU for quite a few years now on my gaming / 3D art rig though, and I’ve really enjoyed it. My Win10 partition has been dormant and shrunk for a very long time.
Just make sure you stick with the default of using BTRFS at least on root, to get that snapshot rollback support!
For being such an up to date distro, it’s ridiculously stable. Usually issues I’ve had have been Nvidia problems, but I’ve been able to roll back until they resolved. Things have definitely gotten much better over time.
Wayland has also matured wonderfully and things like multi monitor setups with different refresh rates work just fine these days.
Totally get what you mean about KDE too, I really enjoy how much easy customization it has!
Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Awesome, thanks for sharing your experiences!
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What’s the issue with snaps? I’m still on Ubuntu ans abkut to switch to Debian, but for me its pretty chill atm because I don’t have to worry about updates or security. I know about the terminal aliases, which could be disclosed better, but it’s not that big of a deal to me. I thought it’s pretty cool to have a “store” that’s curated so I don’t have to worry about security, since I use Linux casually.
I’ll just repost this repost of my personal experience then:
Here’s my answer to this same question from an old thread on Reddit:
My Ubuntu system always reserved a whopping 20% of my 32GB ram for no reason and I never bothered to know why. Later I uninstalled snapd because of boot time issues and guess what happened? Only 1.5 GB used after a fresh boot.
I had like 4 different JetBrains IDEs installed via snap with each totalling around 2GB of disk space. While removing snapd I discovered it kept back 2-3 previous versions of every package on your disk.
Uninstalling this bloat was the best thing I did to my ubuntu system. It was suddenly light as a feather and way more responsive like I just did a fresh system install.
Some time later I was installing something from apt and Ubuntu tried to install it from snap, thus sneakily installing snapd in the process. Looking for a solution, I felt like I was looking up how to disable Windows updates or some other shit.
I had a moment of clarity and wondered why the fuck did I have to put up with this kinda bullshit on Linux. I wiped that drive clean and switched to Fedora.
Edit: and there’s also flatpak which-despite being awful in some ways-is better than snap in every conceivable way.
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
Kubuntu on my desktop, Debian on my server, postmarketOS on my phone. Where do I fit?
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Anybody who calls Linux “GNU/Linux” is rightfully at the bottom of both axes
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”
“Almost bricks their machine” lol
It’s not an iphone, breaking the boot sequence won’t brick it. But sure, go ahead, lecture everyone else…
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I ve been running SUSE for 3years now, it never broke; when I wqs unhappy with an update O rolles back. This is the chilliest distro in my opinion after trying Mint(2 years) and Debian (2years)
Idk, maybe? It was a real experience like this:
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I install system
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I have a screen that prompts me to login either as a root or as a user.
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I login as a root just because I was to install a lot of software.
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I have a black screen and the forums recommend me installing the system again.
It was waaaay before you started using Linux, maybe 10 years ago?
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I fucking love Ubuntu. Have been on it for about 5 years now. It just works AND doesn’t spy or advertise. Nobody has ever been able to convince me it gets better than that. I don’t need stuff to be difficult to prove to myself I’m smart.
They hate snaps but love flatpack or some other container. I don’t get it and they love to trot out some example of Ubuntu being bad that has never applied to me. I have tried other distros but none seem as glitch free as Ubuntu. I run Ubuntu mate on the Raspberry Pis I have here and there. They don’t run xrdp all the time. Just when I need a remote desktop. I run Debian on my servers since I quit CentOS when IBM killed CentOS 8. Just today I read where IBM is Taking over some aspects of Red Hat. How long before they kill Fedora by shutting down Fedora users access to the Repositories. Fedora is Red Hat with a bunch of sucker…er developers contributing.
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/09/09/0039236/red-hat-back-office-team-moving-to-ibm-from-2026
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I see it’s just recently been announced about the beta. Great that they’re hearing up for release. I’m in support of what they’re doing I think I realised that I didn’t like Gnome (neither does System76 by the looks!).
OpenSUSE TW with KDE is perfect for me. Not a sexy/flashy distro but it is the most robust rolling release I’ve seen, and maintained by a European company that has been working on it for decades.
Particularly like the QC/staggered addition of packages and YAST.
Love me some SUSE. People forget that it is one of the OG distributions out there. Been trying Linux from time to time but only switched completely from windows earlier this year. Been messing with Fedora and SUSE way back as a teenager. Unfortunately my experience with opensuse was laggy YouTube on a complete fresh install (AMD btw) so I just switched to cachyos which didn’t have any issues (sooo much better than Manjaro IMHO). Still love SUSE… And fedora. These two will always have a place in my tech heart.
Edit for typos from typing on glass.
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“Almost bricks their machine” lol
It’s not an iphone, breaking the boot sequence won’t brick it. But sure, go ahead, lecture everyone else…
If you delete
/sys/firmware/efi/efivars/*you can brick your motherboard. If it doesn’t have a recovery mode of some kind then it will be permanently bricked.https://www.phoronix.com/news/UEFI-rm-root-directory
Edit: most modern hardware comes with protections against this nowadays though
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I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Sadly I dont have this Copypasta where someone explains to an Arch purist why his Distros is just Linux.
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between Gentoo and Arch, but so far down the y-axis it clipped off the chart.
t. masochistic NixOS user
Or it comes as a second low with an even higher peak at the end.
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The only distro I’ve ever used is arch.
I hopped around until I found Arch, and it has been rock solid, first time an OS has lasted ten years without needing a reinstall. Windows has never lasted more than two years without shitting itself.
