The STM is closing the Jeanne-Mance exit at Place-des-Arts 🟢 underground station for an undetermined period of time.
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@EdwinG The section of the exit above ground was totally rebuilt with the MAC.
The original exit, still under construction. Was low/light structure. I think the concrete "fence" between sidewalk and station didn't last long. I dont recall it existing. but recal the simple édicule. There was a similar one under what is now a large UQAM building on the north east side. (opposite corridor to Place des Arts/Complexe desjardins.
@jfmezei Do I spy a “W. Ontario St” sign on those pictures
Reading this, it seems the exit was rebuilt in 1992… which is quite concerning that it lasted barely over 30 years.
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/placedesarts/index.html
I think that at this point, all PDA exits have been rebuilt however, so none of those original exits.
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@EdwinG Berri Uqam station rebuild has been a massive effort that was mostly transparent because they just did it bits by bits to not disrupt usability of station. It was not only cosmetic, but lost of structural stuff, as well as electric and HVAC (yes, it has HVAC system for the shops and offices inside the station). Hence you now see chilled water pipes exposed on platforms. They also installed elevators with the last step completing elevators to the platforms on yellow line.
PDF of the project to redo the roof: https://www.stm.info/sites/default/files/media/Travaux/Berri-UQAM/2022/berri-uqam_seanceinfo_3fevrier2022_siteweb.pdf
And video of the presentation at public meeting done in 2022:
https://youtu.be/p8aaeQAvmPU (français)@jfmezei I know.
But when is it going to be finished… is it going to be before my retirement? They started work as I was becoming an adult!
Maybe it would have been a good idea to partially close the station for the refurbishment work, and save time… probably years.
Their website has NO timeline on what’s to come…
https://www.stm.info/en/info/service-updates/stm-works/berri-uqam#id_quatrieme -
@jfmezei Do I spy a “W. Ontario St” sign on those pictures
Reading this, it seems the exit was rebuilt in 1992… which is quite concerning that it lasted barely over 30 years.
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/placedesarts/index.html
I think that at this point, all PDA exits have been rebuilt however, so none of those original exits.
@EdwinG
Pllace des Arts, Bleury at Président Kennedy.Before during and now.
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@jfmezei Do I spy a “W. Ontario St” sign on those pictures
Reading this, it seems the exit was rebuilt in 1992… which is quite concerning that it lasted barely over 30 years.
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/placedesarts/index.html
I think that at this point, all PDA exits have been rebuilt however, so none of those original exits.
@EdwinG Amd the dicule ay Bleury at de Maisonneuve.
the "before" is 2007. Consytrruction behan in 2008/2009.
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@jfmezei I know.
But when is it going to be finished… is it going to be before my retirement? They started work as I was becoming an adult!
Maybe it would have been a good idea to partially close the station for the refurbishment work, and save time… probably years.
Their website has NO timeline on what’s to come…
https://www.stm.info/en/info/service-updates/stm-works/berri-uqam#id_quatrieme@EdwinG After the problems with Phase 1 taking longer than predicted, STM put the rest on hold , specially with funding cuts happening. They recently announced agreement with city of Montréal for combined works for phase 2 (which itself was broken in in multiple separate closures).
Phase 1 was broken onto mul;tiple pieces due to the probvlems of all the wiring/piping. They first dug the south side (eastbound lanes) in 2022, and on 2023 dud the north side. And then they worked further west from st-denis to the edge.
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@jfmezei I know.
But when is it going to be finished… is it going to be before my retirement? They started work as I was becoming an adult!
Maybe it would have been a good idea to partially close the station for the refurbishment work, and save time… probably years.
Their website has NO timeline on what’s to come…
https://www.stm.info/en/info/service-updates/stm-works/berri-uqam#id_quatrieme@EdwinG As you walk from the core to the St-Denis exit, this is the concrete that is over your head. They managed to pour a new thin layer before laying the waterproof coatings.
BTW, this was STM work that was not in the City of Montréal map of street closures which reflect only city of montréal work
Going forward, Montréal will incorporate the closures of Berri and Maisonneuve portions for each sub phase. -
@EdwinG As you walk from the core to the St-Denis exit, this is the concrete that is over your head. They managed to pour a new thin layer before laying the waterproof coatings.
BTW, this was STM work that was not in the City of Montréal map of street closures which reflect only city of montréal work
Going forward, Montréal will incorporate the closures of Berri and Maisonneuve portions for each sub phase.@EdwinG On clsing it all to do quick job: thsi was done in 1963-1966 for the building of the station but city of Montréal would never allow that anymore due to all the traffic disruption, expecially as Ste Catherine is no longer a trhough street that was 2 way lijle it was back then.
(photo: the Voyageur bus termina. on top right. Top left is the A&P supermarket, now the BAnQ, on left would be the UQAM building and on right the Parc Émile Gamelin.
Top donw is Berri, left/right is de Maisonneuve.
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@EdwinG
Pllace des Arts, Bleury at Président Kennedy.Before during and now.
@jfmezei The work on that exit started in 2018. I remember walking through the station when I was working there.
It was not pleasant tbh.
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@EdwinG After the problems with Phase 1 taking longer than predicted, STM put the rest on hold , specially with funding cuts happening. They recently announced agreement with city of Montréal for combined works for phase 2 (which itself was broken in in multiple separate closures).
Phase 1 was broken onto mul;tiple pieces due to the probvlems of all the wiring/piping. They first dug the south side (eastbound lanes) in 2022, and on 2023 dud the north side. And then they worked further west from st-denis to the edge.
@jfmezei I struggle with Phase 1 being in the 2020s. I think we’re at phase 100 or something. If Phase 1 took 14 years.. I will be dead before they’re done.
Maybe Gen Gamma might see the end of construction there, if they are lucky.
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@EdwinG On clsing it all to do quick job: thsi was done in 1963-1966 for the building of the station but city of Montréal would never allow that anymore due to all the traffic disruption, expecially as Ste Catherine is no longer a trhough street that was 2 way lijle it was back then.
(photo: the Voyageur bus termina. on top right. Top left is the A&P supermarket, now the BAnQ, on left would be the UQAM building and on right the Parc Émile Gamelin.
Top donw is Berri, left/right is de Maisonneuve.
@jfmezei What they’re doing now is disrupting the same region of the city for decades on.
Berri/de Maisonneuve has been closed regularly since at least 2017!
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@jfmezei I know.
But when is it going to be finished… is it going to be before my retirement? They started work as I was becoming an adult!
Maybe it would have been a good idea to partially close the station for the refurbishment work, and save time… probably years.
Their website has NO timeline on what’s to come…
https://www.stm.info/en/info/service-updates/stm-works/berri-uqam#id_quatrieme@EdwinG With regards to "when will the work be done at Berri", probably "never" because by the time they have budgets to deal with issue A, issue B will arise.
But the inside ofstation renovations are close to complete (there is work between core and Place Dupuis right now). Have not gone to the yellow line platforms to see progress of elevator work there.
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@jfmezei I struggle with Phase 1 being in the 2020s. I think we’re at phase 100 or something. If Phase 1 took 14 years.. I will be dead before they’re done.
Maybe Gen Gamma might see the end of construction there, if they are lucky.
@EdwinG Phase 1 refers to the project to redo the waterproof membrane over roof of station. There have been many many project over the years.
Here is an example: when they covered the space over the tracks on the orange line level to prevent suicides, it caused a huge change in ventilation when a metro came in so they had to dig new ventilation shafts. One of them is a new access from the BAnQ "pit" on the SE corner of building where you see trees come out form a level below ground. There is also an entrance from metro to BanQ done at same time,
