BMW
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BMW drivers seem to be on their phones an awful lot for a car with no signal
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I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.
The biggest problem is when they don’t indicate when they’re changing road. They’ll be driving along and suddenly they’ll slam on their brakes and turn left, zero warning.
They’re absolutely a nightmare on roundabouts. You have no idea where they’re going, so you have to just sit there until they’ve left, it’s the only safe way to handle them.
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I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.
Probably not to the same level of lane-correct-agressiveness, but my SIL’s Volkswagen’s lane correct is insane. The roads around here aren’t great, and it will often detect random streaks or lines of potholes as a lane and refuse to allow you to avoid them. Once an elk ran in front of the car and when my brother tried to swerve to avoid the damn car fought him so hard we only narrowly missed it. And at other times when on roads with no lane markings at all it randomly decides that the road isn’t the road, and that ditch over there is the lane we’re supposed to be in.
All that said, it works great most of the time, and we just turn it off if it’s acting hinkey
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The biggest problem is when they don’t indicate when they’re changing road. They’ll be driving along and suddenly they’ll slam on their brakes and turn left, zero warning.
They’re absolutely a nightmare on roundabouts. You have no idea where they’re going, so you have to just sit there until they’ve left, it’s the only safe way to handle them.
I find this is all cars. They’ll either not indicate or indicate a ms before making a move. It’s as though they don’t understand they’re indicating for others benefit.
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I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.
Is this real or a joke? It reads like the “if you don’t use the turn signal the car doesn’t turn” meme.
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Probably not to the same level of lane-correct-agressiveness, but my SIL’s Volkswagen’s lane correct is insane. The roads around here aren’t great, and it will often detect random streaks or lines of potholes as a lane and refuse to allow you to avoid them. Once an elk ran in front of the car and when my brother tried to swerve to avoid the damn car fought him so hard we only narrowly missed it. And at other times when on roads with no lane markings at all it randomly decides that the road isn’t the road, and that ditch over there is the lane we’re supposed to be in.
All that said, it works great most of the time, and we just turn it off if it’s acting hinkey
the problem with “most of the time” is that it only takes one car accident to be the last car ride you ever take
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I find this is all cars. They’ll either not indicate or indicate a ms before making a move. It’s as though they don’t understand they’re indicating for others benefit.
Unironically I had a cab driver tell me he doesn’t indicate because then nobody would let him get over.
The only people who reliably use their blinkers over here are vehicles so big nobody dare block them.
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Is this real or a joke? It reads like the “if you don’t use the turn signal the car doesn’t turn” meme.
It"s real. You can disable it, but it is on by default.
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Props to BMW for that. Obnoxious but evidently entirely necessary.
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the problem with “most of the time” is that it only takes one car accident to be the last car ride you ever take
Which is a great argument for why F1 drivers should not use it, but most people are terrible at driving and probably risk much more with it off than with it on.
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Badly worded. A potential rewrite:
He, of course, did not signal his intent to anyone.
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Badly worded. A potential rewrite:
He, of course, did not signal his intent to anyone.
They are listed as indicators as well. And that’s exactly what it means when you are changing lanes, indicating what your intent is to others around you.
Is spot on
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Probably not to the same level of lane-correct-agressiveness, but my SIL’s Volkswagen’s lane correct is insane. The roads around here aren’t great, and it will often detect random streaks or lines of potholes as a lane and refuse to allow you to avoid them. Once an elk ran in front of the car and when my brother tried to swerve to avoid the damn car fought him so hard we only narrowly missed it. And at other times when on roads with no lane markings at all it randomly decides that the road isn’t the road, and that ditch over there is the lane we’re supposed to be in.
All that said, it works great most of the time, and we just turn it off if it’s acting hinkey
I almost hit pedestrians (twice!) because our Hyundai Kona re-enables the lane correction thing at each boot (I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist). And I forget it’s there, and it’s literally life-threatening.
(there are no curbs here, pedestrians have to walk on the roads)
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Badly worded. A potential rewrite:
He, of course, did not signal his intent to anyone.
He didn’t even blink before leaving.
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Which is a great argument for why F1 drivers should not use it, but most people are terrible at driving and probably risk much more with it off than with it on.
Frankly, they shouldn’t be driving at all if they need something like that to drive safely day to day. The bar for being allowed to drive is way too low IMO (and I thought this before seeing you say that and realizing you might be right about that).
My thought after hearing about a lane assist that will fight you if you don’t signal is when I leave my lane without signaling, it means I really need to be out of that lane and not fighting some safety system that works on the assumption that unusual things don’t happen. Even during usual situations, it just sounds like a feature that encourages paying less attention.
Makes me glad to have a car where the most it does to “help” is traction control. Hell, even the ABS seems to be tuned for pavement rather than snow/ice and I had to learn to not trust it to help stop in those conditions and instead pump the breaks.
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I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.
So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.
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So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.
Well, no. It also has collision avoidance. Theoretically it should just slam on the breaks.
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So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.
The automated steering motion doesn’t have a lot of torque and can easily be overpowered by just holding the wheel, at which point it will disengage.
This is a fundamental design principle for automated driving assistants, similar to how the pedals overrule cruise control.
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Well, no. It also has collision avoidance. Theoretically it should just slam on the breaks.
Unless the object is to small but can still cause damage. I watched a new car have to slam it’s brakes on and pull over quickly this morning because they hit a rock that was small enough must cars were passing over it, but large enough that it caught on the bottom of the Dodge charger and started dragging down the freeway.
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I almost hit pedestrians (twice!) because our Hyundai Kona re-enables the lane correction thing at each boot (I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist). And I forget it’s there, and it’s literally life-threatening.
(there are no curbs here, pedestrians have to walk on the roads)
I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist
That’s easy, it’s pronounced “Trunk”
Edit: It was a joke!
