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  • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
    Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
    Ben Pate 🤘🏻
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    #1

    Have you seen this news?

    #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

    So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

    Im so excited about this.

    Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

    Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

    #E2EE

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    • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

      Have you seen this news?

      #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

      So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

      Im so excited about this.

      Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

      Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

      #E2EE

      Link Preview Image
      Sovereign Tech Agency funding

      Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

      favicon

      Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

      Andy PiperA This user is from outside of this forum
      Andy PiperA This user is from outside of this forum
      Andy Piper
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @benpate did you hear that Mastodon’s next version implemented Activity Intents, as well? Things keep getting better!

      Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Adam KatzA 2 Replies Last reply
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      • Andy PiperA Andy Piper

        @benpate did you hear that Mastodon’s next version implemented Activity Intents, as well? Things keep getting better!

        Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
        Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
        Ben Pate 🤘🏻
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        @andypiper

        I knew it was in the works, but didn’t know that it has landed in the next release yet.

        Also fantastic news!

        Piece by piece, we are bringing the Fediverse closer together AND reaching out to the wider web.

        The future is looking brighter every day!

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        • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

          @andypiper

          I knew it was in the works, but didn’t know that it has landed in the next release yet.

          Also fantastic news!

          Piece by piece, we are bringing the Fediverse closer together AND reaching out to the wider web.

          The future is looking brighter every day!

          Andy PiperA This user is from outside of this forum
          Andy PiperA This user is from outside of this forum
          Andy Piper
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @benpate it got a mention in Trunk & Tidbits, so it's Really Real™️

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          • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

            Have you seen this news?

            #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

            So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

            Im so excited about this.

            Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

            Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

            #E2EE

            Link Preview Image
            Sovereign Tech Agency funding

            Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

            favicon

            Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

            Purely BusinessT This user is from outside of this forum
            Purely BusinessT This user is from outside of this forum
            Purely Business
            wrote last edited by
            #5
            @benpate why do you need e2ee? not from a nothing to hide pov just this seems completely overkill
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            • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

              Have you seen this news?

              #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

              So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

              Im so excited about this.

              Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

              Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

              #E2EE

              Link Preview Image
              Sovereign Tech Agency funding

              Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

              favicon

              Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

              DingoE This user is from outside of this forum
              DingoE This user is from outside of this forum
              Dingo
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @benpate
              Hell yeah! 👍

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              • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                Have you seen this news?

                #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                Im so excited about this.

                Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                #E2EE

                Link Preview Image
                Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                favicon

                Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                rickfR This user is from outside of this forum
                rickfR This user is from outside of this forum
                rickf
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                @benpate And meanwhile, services owned by megacorps (cough Meta) are yanking E2EE from their platforms.

                Fedi FTW!

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                • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                  Have you seen this news?

                  #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                  So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                  Im so excited about this.

                  Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                  Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                  #E2EE

                  Link Preview Image
                  Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                  Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                  favicon

                  Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                  Senna 🌷E This user is from outside of this forum
                  Senna 🌷E This user is from outside of this forum
                  Senna 🌷
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

                  Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

                  Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

                  Evan ProdromouE Ben Pate 🤘🏻B O.VoãoO Weird SocksO 4 Replies Last reply
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                  • Senna 🌷E Senna 🌷

                    @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

                    Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

                    Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

                    Evan ProdromouE This user is from outside of this forum
                    Evan ProdromouE This user is from outside of this forum
                    Evan Prodromou
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    @earth_walker @benpate

                    It's not either-or. You can use both.

                    If you prefer to switch apps and identities and go over to Signal, awesome.

                    If you'd rather message someone with your ActivityPub identity, you can do that securely now, too.

                    The E2EE work on ActivityPub uses an open standard, MLS, to encrypt data. One reason we chose it was so it's at least possible to bridge to other social and messaging networks while keeping the data encrypted from end to end.

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                    • Senna 🌷E Senna 🌷

                      @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

                      Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

                      Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      @earth_walker

                      I don’t have all the answers, but I believe there’s a network effect at work.

                      Signal is fantastic. I use it for lots of things. But it’s “yet another” place to go.

                      But the Fediverse is my primary place to talk with people (like you)

                      If you and I could have a truly private follow-on discussion without switching networks, it would be a win for the Fediverse.

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                      • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                        Have you seen this news?

                        #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                        So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                        Im so excited about this.

                        Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                        Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                        #E2EE

                        Link Preview Image
                        Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                        Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                        favicon

                        Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                        ZenHeathen :canada:Z This user is from outside of this forum
                        ZenHeathen :canada:Z This user is from outside of this forum
                        ZenHeathen :canada:
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                        #11

                        @benpate Do you mean PMs to other users which are actually P?

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                        • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                          Have you seen this news?

                          #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                          So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                          Im so excited about this.

                          Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                          Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                          #E2EE

                          Link Preview Image
                          Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                          Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                          favicon

                          Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          manul70
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                          #12

                          @benpate That's good, French gov will not be able to spy on us.

                          Ben Pate 🤘🏻B 1 Reply Last reply
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                          • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                            Have you seen this news?

                            #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                            So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                            Im so excited about this.

                            Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                            Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                            #E2EE

                            Link Preview Image
                            Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                            Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                            favicon

                            Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Toni Aittoniemi
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                            #13

                            @benpate I love when government agencies do what they’re supposed to do!!

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                            • M manul70

                              @benpate That's good, French gov will not be able to spy on us.

                              Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ben Pate 🤘🏻
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              @manul70 Yup! Though I'm less concerned with nation states. Nation-states are considered an "Advanced Persistent Threat" - and if they want into your devices, then god help you. Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/538/

                              But, this will be great for thwarting the next tier down: web scrapers, nosy admins, and corporate spies.

                              Anyone building #E2EE is a win for the Fediverse...

                              MASTODON building e2ee is a HUGE win for the Fediverse.

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                              • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                                Have you seen this news?

                                #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                Im so excited about this.

                                Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                #E2EE

                                Link Preview Image
                                Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                                Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                                favicon

                                Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                                Retro-HaxR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Retro-HaxR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Retro-Hax
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                                #15

                                @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

                                Ben Pate 🤘🏻B 1 Reply Last reply
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                                • Retro-HaxR Retro-Hax

                                  @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

                                  Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Ben Pate 🤘🏻
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

                                  The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

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                                  • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                                    @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

                                    The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

                                    Retro-HaxR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Retro-HaxR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Retro-Hax
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                                    #17

                                    @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
                                    Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

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                                    • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B Ben Pate 🤘🏻

                                      Have you seen this news?

                                      #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                      So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                      Im so excited about this.

                                      Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                      Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                      #E2EE

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Sovereign Tech Agency funding

                                      Announcing a service agreement for new work to improve Mastodon and the broader ecosystem.

                                      favicon

                                      Mastodon Blog (blog.joinmastodon.org)

                                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Ben Pate 🤘🏻
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

                                      #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

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                                      • Retro-HaxR Retro-Hax

                                        @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
                                        Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

                                        Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Ben Pate 🤘🏻
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @RetroHax

                                        Well that explains why my google searches looked so weird.

                                        Yes, I'm old. You kids with your funny words... 😅

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                                        • Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Ben Pate 🤘🏻B This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Ben Pate 🤘🏻
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                                          #20

                                          @jens

                                          The primary spec for ActivityPub is here: https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-e2ee/mls

                                          I have a project overview here: https://emissary.dev/e2ee <- this also includes links to the MLS protocol and other implementation resources.

                                          My overview page WAS up to date, but I haven't posted much recently. But I *swear* I'm still making progress.

                                          I'll show off a little of my work at #FediForum - and I'm sure we'll have larger conversations there about #E2EE in general.

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