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    • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

      Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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      primrosepathspeedrun
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      Accurate to real life parenting.

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      • Kenny2999K Kenny2999

        The monster lives in all of us.

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        #29

        If you could blow up the world with the flick of a switch

        Would you do it?

        If you could make everybody poor just so you could be rich

        Would you do it?

        If you could watch everybody work while you just lay on your back

        Would you do it?

        If you could take all the love without giving any back

        Would you do it?

        And so we cannot know ourselves or what we’d really do…

        With all your power

        With all your power

        With all your power

        What would you do?

        The Flaming Lips - The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song

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        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          If you could blow up the world with the flick of a switch

          Would you do it?

          If you could make everybody poor just so you could be rich

          Would you do it?

          If you could watch everybody work while you just lay on your back

          Would you do it?

          If you could take all the love without giving any back

          Would you do it?

          And so we cannot know ourselves or what we’d really do…

          With all your power

          With all your power

          With all your power

          What would you do?

          The Flaming Lips - The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song

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          antler
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          Great song - but the title is “The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song.”

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          • A antler

            Great song - but the title is “The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song.”

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            sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Derp!

            Thank you for the correction!

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            • The QuuuuuillQ The Quuuuuill

              i think the real argument is that what makes Frankenstein the monster is that he brings a life into this world but doesn’t provide it any guidance. he refuses to be a good father. the sea captain even finds himself quite charmed by how thoughtful, gentle, and caring the unnamed creature is despite his upbringing and decides the northwest passage isn’t worth him dooming his crew based on his philosophical discussion with the creature

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              lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Sounds like a pro choice reading of the novel? Or we shouldn’t overestimate the meaning of biological parents

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                tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                "Instead, Kevorkian leaned in very close — about six inches from my face. ‘Have you read Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein,’ he asked?

                "I nodded that I had.

                "He said ‘then you know that Frankenstein wasn’t the monster; society was the monster.’

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                • L lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Sounds like a pro choice reading of the novel? Or we shouldn’t overestimate the meaning of biological parents

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                  The Quuuuuill
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                  nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

                  ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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                  • The QuuuuuillQ The Quuuuuill

                    nothing to do with abortion i don’t think. just that if you intentionally bring life into the world, you have responsibilities to that life and to the future world that life will exist within. dr frankenstein does not think in these terms but the unnamed creature does because the unnamed creature is fascinated by the humanities whereas the dr is not.

                    ultimately i think Mary Shelly introducing the world to science fiction sets an extremely, almost radical, humanist/feminist tone for the genre that still resonates in science fiction today. if we find pro-choice themes in the story, i think those are themes we find on account of the humanist/feminist nature of being pro-choice, not any intentional technique on the author’s part. but the fact that we find progressivism from 1818 so resonant still today i find deeply meaningful. these are conversations we’ve been having throughout human history. i even think it’s significant she co-titled the book “The Modern Prometheus.” it ties her modern contemporary story to an ancient one and asks the reader to ponder if that old tale was also one dreamt up by a liberation seeker

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                    lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
                    #deathoftheauthor

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                    • L lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      To be clear: I didn’t talk about the intended meaning, I was talking about a possible reading
                      #deathoftheauthor

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                      The Quuuuuill
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                      ah okay cool. i was trying to get at that in the back half of the comment. sorry to overexplain i just deal with a lot of arrogant dismissive conservatives.

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                      • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

                        Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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                        absentbird@lemmy.world
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                        That’s just typical shitty dad stuff.

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                          abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                            Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                            mesophar@pawb.social
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                            This 1000 times. It wasn’t even ambiguous in the novel.

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                            • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              Adam Frankenstein is the name of the creation. Victor Frankenstein however is the monster. Fun fact: he’s not even a Doctor, he was a College Student with too much time on his hands.

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                              blackvenom@lemmy.world
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                              I wanted to believe this.

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                              • L littletoolshed@lemmy.world

                                Part of Frankenstein’s rejection of his creation is the fact that he does not give him a name. Instead, Frankenstein’s creation is referred to by words such as “wretch”, “monster”, “creature”, “demon”, “devil”, “fiend”, and “it”. When Frankenstein converses with the creature, he addresses him as “vile insect”, “abhorred monster”, “fiend”, “wretched devil”, and “abhorred devil”.

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                                yottadren@lemmy.world
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                                Nah, my mom called me half of these things but I still get the last name

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                                • A absentbird@lemmy.world

                                  That’s just typical shitty dad stuff.

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                                  yottadren@lemmy.world
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                                  Typical Frankenstein

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