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  • R redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com

    Which is a great argument for why F1 drivers should not use it, but most people are terrible at driving and probably risk much more with it off than with it on.

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    buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    Frankly, they shouldn’t be driving at all if they need something like that to drive safely day to day. The bar for being allowed to drive is way too low IMO (and I thought this before seeing you say that and realizing you might be right about that).

    My thought after hearing about a lane assist that will fight you if you don’t signal is when I leave my lane without signaling, it means I really need to be out of that lane and not fighting some safety system that works on the assumption that unusual things don’t happen. Even during usual situations, it just sounds like a feature that encourages paying less attention.

    Makes me glad to have a car where the most it does to “help” is traction control. Hell, even the ABS seems to be tuned for pavement rather than snow/ice and I had to learn to not trust it to help stop in those conditions and instead pump the breaks.

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    • Jo MiranJ Jo Miran

      I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.

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      retro_unlimited@lemmy.world
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      So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.

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      • R retro_unlimited@lemmy.world

        So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.

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        Jo Miran
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        Well, no. It also has collision avoidance. Theoretically it should just slam on the breaks.

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        • R retro_unlimited@lemmy.world

          So if there is an obstacle on the road, the car will force you to plow into it? Damn I really do hate new cars, but it just gets worse and worse.

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          bob_lemon@feddit.org
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          The automated steering motion doesn’t have a lot of torque and can easily be overpowered by just holding the wheel, at which point it will disengage.

          This is a fundamental design principle for automated driving assistants, similar to how the pedals overrule cruise control.

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          • Jo MiranJ Jo Miran

            Well, no. It also has collision avoidance. Theoretically it should just slam on the breaks.

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            titanicx@lemmy.zip
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            Unless the object is to small but can still cause damage. I watched a new car have to slam it’s brakes on and pull over quickly this morning because they hit a rock that was small enough must cars were passing over it, but large enough that it caught on the bottom of the Dodge charger and started dragging down the freeway.

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            • H hadriscus@jlai.lu

              I almost hit pedestrians (twice!) because our Hyundai Kona re-enables the lane correction thing at each boot (I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist). And I forget it’s there, and it’s literally life-threatening.

              (there are no curbs here, pedestrians have to walk on the roads)

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              threeme2189@lemmy.world
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              I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist

              That’s easy, it’s pronounced “Trunk”

              Edit: It was a joke!

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              • Jo MiranJ Jo Miran

                I own a BMW EV. The latest update dialed the “lane correction” to 11. If you do not use your signal light before exiting or switching lanes, the vehicle will steer you back in your lane. It is the most aggressive “lane correct” default behaviour of any vehicle I’ve driven so far, almost as if BMW knows what is required to train their drivers.

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                alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                Meanwhile BMW motorcycles be like “only 50 degree max lean? You ride like my grandma!”

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                  glorkon@lemmy.world
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                  “I quit my job at the helium gas factory. I didn’t like being spoken to in that voice.” - Stewart Francis

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                  • T threeme2189@lemmy.world

                    I don’t know how to say “boot” but for cars, in english. But you get the gist

                    That’s easy, it’s pronounced “Trunk”

                    Edit: It was a joke!

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                    hadriscus@jlai.lu
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                    No I mean to… start ? start a car ? that sounds too simple,… but I don’t want to look in the dictionary

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                      33550336@lemmy.world
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                      I love to drive my E46 (my guilty pleasure) and I confirm that giving a signal is an unnecessary burden.

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                      • H hadriscus@jlai.lu

                        No I mean to… start ? start a car ? that sounds too simple,… but I don’t want to look in the dictionary

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                        NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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                        I think this is kind of on the edge of definition. Historically, you’d say “start” a car, but these days with cars practically being computers…I dunno. Hell, my car is just always on. I just get in and go, I don’t “start” it at all. Occasionally, it has an issue and I have to manually reboot it, so…

                        As a native English speaker, my answer is: I don’t know, it depends.

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                        • N NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ

                          I think this is kind of on the edge of definition. Historically, you’d say “start” a car, but these days with cars practically being computers…I dunno. Hell, my car is just always on. I just get in and go, I don’t “start” it at all. Occasionally, it has an issue and I have to manually reboot it, so…

                          As a native English speaker, my answer is: I don’t know, it depends.

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                          hadriscus@jlai.lu
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                          Well thank you for this clarification

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                          • B bob_lemon@feddit.org

                            The automated steering motion doesn’t have a lot of torque and can easily be overpowered by just holding the wheel, at which point it will disengage.

                            This is a fundamental design principle for automated driving assistants, similar to how the pedals overrule cruise control.

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                            retro_unlimited@lemmy.world
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                            Oh that’s a good safety feature then!

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                            • H hadriscus@jlai.lu

                              No I mean to… start ? start a car ? that sounds too simple,… but I don’t want to look in the dictionary

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                              threeme2189@lemmy.world
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                              I know… It was a joke

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                                I know… It was a joke

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                                hadriscus@jlai.lu
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                                I think I understand

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                                • H hadriscus@jlai.lu

                                  Well thank you for this clarification

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                                  NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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                                  For what it’s worth, you’re 100% fine just saying using “start” haha. It’s just kind of weird with modern tech

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                                  • N NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ

                                    For what it’s worth, you’re 100% fine just saying using “start” haha. It’s just kind of weird with modern tech

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                                    hadriscus@jlai.lu
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                                    Thanks I do appreciate it. Once in a while I stumble upon a combination of noun+verb that I’ve seldom (or never) encountered in the wild and I just stand there confused (because it’s so trivial!)

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