Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

@rysiek not many of my non geeky friends are here, and none of the communities I am trying to reach out to

@rysiek
There were three men come out of the West
Their fortunes for to try.
And these three men made a solemn vow.
John Mastodon must die.

@rysiek there's a lot of good people saying important things on Twitter still, too. People I respect and people I care about. Network effects are crucial.

@nblr
I've seen people say that about BS accounts. Just signing up to protect my brand! Like copycat accounts are concerned about accuracy in account impersonations. They'll let some celeb have their real "protected" account of @johnsmith on BS and just use @johrsrn1th to ask people for iTunes gift cards.

@rysiek

@chrisp
Three seriously low hanging plums, those.
@rysiek

@rysiek to me there is fundamental flaws in his arguments and to anyone trying to mock him.

On one hand the chief complaint of Mastodon for him and for many is also its biggest feature. By its very nature Mastodon has no reason to ever “die”. It has no stakeholders no profit margins no business to keep a float. If someone just one person is willing to keep a server running In their basement forever with Mastodon on it. Mastodon will live for ever.

The gist of argument in my view ? Or what I see is the argument; is that Mastodon will never outgrow Twitter or X. And I agree, it won’t. Mastodon GMBH essentially guaranteed that by killing the ability to find other servers while using their servers.

I am done caring if Mastodon grows to billions. If people don’t want to put in a little work and see something amazing. That’s their problem ! Mastodon has plenty of interesting funny people who toot everyday. And that’s more than enough for me

The article itself is douchey as I imagine the author of it Is. But I think the argument is won that Mastodon will not achieve mainstream. My argument is that doesn’t matter.

@liquidlamp
Fair, but we all knew they were going to have to bring VC money in. Even in the early days of Twitter, it was pretty obvious to many that there needed to be a way to generate revenue to pay for infrastructure and salaries. Monetize or die, more or less.
@rysiek @revengeday

@rysiek Insightful views on Mastodon from a man who ... *reads again* ... set up an account solely to stop someone else from signing up using his name ... clearly not realizing there is no central username database for Mastodon.

@leanderlindahl @rysiek Oh yeah; we’re just drowning in hype here. All those politicians and influencers heaping undeserved prise on the little ol’ elephant.

@rysiek Uh-huh. Great post to see in trending after coming from threads to check if mastodon gained any traction yet (it didn't)

@falcennial @rysiek

I think we should all celebrate by tooting "Toot!" at his mastodon.social account.

@dec23k @Mabande @MarkAssPandi @rysiek

Alternate Twitter apps were so popular Twitter had to close off their API just to get people onto the official one.

@johnlogic @stux @rysiek He sounds like the guy running the quiz in Billy Madison

@rysiek@mstdn.social any fedi thing, especially mastodon will always survive because there's so many gay nerds out in the world. though, mastodon hosters are more so middle aged men who don't like meta much, i think

@quinn @rysiek Diaspora* is proof positive of that. I log in like once every 3 years at this point and it's all still there.

I'm interested to hear your perception that fedi is shrinking, I don't share it (despite knowing that "Mastodon" MAUs - however they're tracked - are down from peak) but I also think I have a sort of bottom-up approach to finding ppl to follow after being here almost 10 years and also being distrustful of Firstname Lastname clearly-has-a-mortgage accounts who post Takes.

@rysiek @chrisp

I was not anti-google back then and I wanted Google+ to thrive. Technically, it was pretty good for the time, but not many people joined. It couldn't overcome the network effect other platforms had achieved.

I'm glad of it now. I shudder to think of Google being dominant in the social media sphere today.

@quinn @rysiek (and to be clear I'm not saying such users are your main circle, but I'm guessing you might engage with them more than I do and I'm also guessing that those might account for a lot of the shrinkage.)

@MeaningfulBits @rysiek that's the life.

@64bithero @rysiek
similarly, I really wish Mastodon (and Fedi as a whole) would stop pretending like it actually wants us to replace something like X or BlueSky.

I don't think a lot of Fedi users actually question how much it would start to suck if we really did replace X or BlueSky and all those users took over Fedi. Which is what would likely happen.

@vfrmedia @RoyHorace @mxchara @rysiek
I suppose that includes me.
I'm 71 and although I have worked extensively with computers during my career, IT was never part of my core job.

I do have a very early paper published where I'm a joint author on the development of an HTML 'database' which I'm proud to say has now morphed into a fully maintained international web resource.
Does that make me techie?