Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive
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@rysiek Ulanoff got stuck and can NOT evolve past his scant understanding of the "internet", beyond Web2.0
He never had a single tech opinion that was not handed to him, with a check, by some corporate PR douchebag.
Always consider your sources.
@rysiek look at a typical gem from his sharp mind.
Zero opinions that did not come with a check by some corpo doucho.
He couldn't get out of vim, if he found himself there, if we gave him another computer to look it up.
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@rysiek there's a lot of good people saying important things on Twitter still, too. People I respect and people I care about. Network effects are crucial.
@quinn sure. and it's to some extent on us to create the network effects we want to see in the world.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive -
I think we should all celebrate by tooting "Toot!" at his mastodon.social account.
@EdCates @falcennial no need for dogpiling, we're better than that.
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@EdCates @falcennial no need for dogpiling, we're better than that.
@rysiek *sigh* IIIII knowwww...but it's funny to think.
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My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited. People keep talking about how the Fediverse is going to revolutionize things and fight back against ensh!ttification and centralization, but if the biggest platform on the Fediverse can hardly maintain 1m monthly active users after about a decade, then it's not doing its job very well at inspiring that change.
It's great that the people already inside the Fediverse are having a great time, but that's not stopping the rapid ensh!ttification of everything outside it. I don't really want the Fediverse to solely be a nerd's club because only nerds use it, that wasn't the point of it. Like, if the Fediverse is so good, why wouldn't we want to share it with more people and encourage them to adopt it and get away from algorithm/slop hell?
> My issue is that a platform the size of Mastodon isn't going to encourage sweeping changes to how the internet is inhabited.
It already has. EU institutions have official presence here, EU regulations are inspired by the interoperability and federated nature of this here social network. There are many ways to "encourage sweeping changes" without having to be the biggest kid on the social media block.
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@i_give_u_worms @donelias not sure really, could not find William Shatner on Mashable myself.
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@Tattie inb4 Mastodon is All Grown Up Now
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@rysiek @chrisp
Unfashionable take, but I really liked G+ (in the early days, before the mandatory YouTube disaster).
I got in as part of the first wave of general public users, courtesy of an invite from a friend who worked for Google.Woz was on it, and I found a lot of interesting music there (that wasn't being pushed anywhere else).
It (unsurprisingly) went to shit after they added the mandatory requirement to have a G+ account to add comments on YouTube videos.
@dec23k @rysiek @chrisp I really liked G+'s "circles" feature where you could post to different circles of friends. Your horny posts don't have to go to family and you don't have to inundate your friends with family posts. It was a really good feature for the lost time of primarily connecting with people you know in real life on social media
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Counterpoint: that article is over three years old and was written not long after the Twitter exodus. That doesn't counter my point that the platform has plateau'd in terms of active users:
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
We observe all Fediverse Sites. Find a Fediverse site to sign up for, find one close to you using a list, map or let us auto-pick one for you!
(fediverse.observer)
Estimates range from ~750k - 1m monthly active users, and I know it's been sitting at that for a while because I occasionally check in with FediDB. Monthly active users has been coasting around 1.1m - 1.2m for over a year now. Mastodon Analytics show that the monthly active user count is currently coasting downwards when zoomed all the way out:
Mastodon Analytics
How many users, active users, servers are on Mastodon?
Mastodon Analytics (mastodon-analytics.com)
Server counts have also been decreasing.
@Eeveecraft@dragonscave.space @rysiek@mstdn.social How are they getting the data though?
The main ones I see are using crawlers, but a bunch of instances block those and block logged out users. Or just don’t handle
NodeInfoat all.Misskey in general seems to leave
activeMonthandactiveHalfyeartoundefined.It’s easy to see no change if one is only counting the increasingly unpopular Mastodon.
Counting fedi users and counting Mastodon users are two different things.
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@rysiek@mstdn.social any fedi thing, especially mastodon will always survive because there's so many gay nerds out in the world. though, mastodon hosters are more so middle aged men who don't like meta much, i think
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek A platform's success is now measured by the tech press in terms of exponential growth only. If you don't double or quadruple in size every year, you're doomed, dying or already dead. Stable isn't enough, even for things not designed to be for profit.
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@rysiek A platform's success is now measured by the tech press in terms of exponential growth only. If you don't double or quadruple in size every year, you're doomed, dying or already dead. Stable isn't enough, even for things not designed to be for profit.
@Rycochet how is this our problem?
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek even highly trained neuroscientists have struggled to locate Shatner's Bassoon
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@vfrmedia @RoyHorace @mxchara @rysiek
Shadow IT - I like that!Yes, I could program a Commodore PET computer in Basic and a ZX-something-or-other.
The PET was at work in about 1981 and we used it to print laboratory results onto labels which avoided the errors from our nasty handwriting!
The HTML stuff was on a Mac of some shape and I was given a lot of encouragement by one of our consultant pathologists. In that job I also had to learn how to fettle a big DEC thingy with tape cartridges that ran a medium sized network.
At home I had a Prestel terminal and a home PC that I was happy to get into the insides of. (The first of those was an Amstrad PC1512 that's still in the loft)So, yes, lots of IT background but none of it •directly• relevant to the 21st century.
@MikeFromLFE @vfrmedia @RoyHorace @rysiek That all sounds very comfy and familiar. Surely there's a place for those of us with a more 20th century-oriented view of technology?
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@MikeFromLFE @vfrmedia @RoyHorace @rysiek That all sounds very comfy and familiar. Surely there's a place for those of us with a more 20th century-oriented view of technology?
@mxchara @MikeFromLFE @RoyHorace @rysiek
I think that *is* the Fedi? There's literally loads of people on here who fondly remember (or even still use) 20th century tech (only a few weeks ago I tested a new VOIP telephone system by connecting a British Telecom 8746 dial telephone to it (via an ATA) to make a test call..
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek honestly, there is some truth in that mastodon has way too high of a barrier to entry for the average person and absolutely didn't catch on beyond a bunch of curious linux users and developers. but we're definitely surviving and still experimenting here which is neat!
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek I think this screenshot speaks for how badly this article aged.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive@rysiek the reasons aren't even the actual issues that Mastodon has, except the reality that yes, it really is harder to grow a community and find folks. But "But it's still our Twitter and when looked at in comparison to Mastodon, it looks good." I do understand he's figured out a few things since then.
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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-surviveAt this rate the internet itself won't survive..
Which is not a good idea for the ones making it unusable since it will be their heads rolling down the street when they realize a free and open and not slop infested internet is the only "circus" left keeping the people from burning their respective countries to the ground.
![Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]](https://cdn.masto.host/mastodonie/accounts/avatars/109/294/420/470/083/565/original/e4aa324b482bd55c.png "Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]"){kind=avatar}
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